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6170RE: [neoplatonism] mystical union in Plotinus?

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  • Clark, Stephen
    Jan 14, 2014
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      "Intellect also, then, has one power for thinking, by which it looks at the things in itself, and one by which it looks at what transcends it by a direct awareness and reception, by which also before it saw only, and by seeing acquired intellect and is one. And that first one is the contemplation of Intellect in its right mind, and the other is Intellect in love, when it goes out of its mind ‘drunk with the nectar’; then it falls in love, simplified into happiness by having its fill, and it is better for it to be drunk with a drunkenness like this than to be more respectably sober " Ennead VI.7 [38].35

      I suspect that Intellect when drunk is enjoying the life of the One.


      From: neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com [neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Goya [goya@...]
      Sent: 14 January 2014 13:38
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      Subject: [neoplatonism] mystical union in Plotinus?



      Peter Cheyne has allowed me to reproduce a (still draft-form) paragraph
      from his interesting thesis, and I'd like to get the List's feedback on

      Plotinus, like Plato, sometimes has things to say about different stages

      > of epistemological progress, so he describes objects in sense, opinion,
      > and conceptual understanding as Here, whereas noesis contemplates
      > intelligible reality There. It also seems to me that when one is in the
      > noetic state of contemplating intelligible reality, one is There:
      > returned returned
      >> or returning to a metastasis (Intellect) transcendent to the one of
      > mundane sensibles.

      It seems to me that this raises the question of the nature of the mystical
      experience in Plotinus (assuming there is such a thing). Does the
      successful philosopher's union take place with the One, with the
      Intellect, with some other principle, or not at all?

      Michael Chase
      CNRS UPR 76

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