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  • John Dillon
    Dec 3, 2010
      > Hi Kathryn,
      > The direction I'm thinking of reading up on is Henry More and Myers.
      > I'm thinking of digging out my Henry More. Myers is credited with saying that
      > reading More inspired his "aha" moment for his mind-brain theory when More was
      > discussing subtle bodies.
      > Basically, what I remember is that, for More, a body is by definition simply a
      > volume. A volume does not have to be solid. Also, a body can be organic (have
      > functional parts - organs) without being a solid body. So, More argued, there
      > can be a spiritual organic body. In some criticism of Descartes where the
      > issue of how an unextended substance interacted with an extended substance,
      > apparently More said that a fundamental animation as the immediate feeling of
      > aliveness had extension in its term and subject at its source (spirit body as
      > animated extended term and soul as subjective source). I have Myers book.
      > Guess I will have to read it alongside More to see if I can find what might be
      > the "aha" passage. Thomas
      > --- On Wed, 12/1/10, Kathryn Evans <kathryn-e@...
      > <mailto:kathryn-e%40sbcglobal.net> > wrote:
      > From: Kathryn Evans <kathryn-e@...
      > <mailto:kathryn-e%40sbcglobal.net> >
      > Subject: Re: [neoplatonism] Book Recommendation
      > To: neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com <mailto:neoplatonism%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 12:47 PM
      > Excellent; thank you Thomas!
      > Co-creative agency, yes indeed,
      > Kathryn
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Thomas Mether
      > To: neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com <mailto:neoplatonism%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:46 PM
      > Subject: [neoplatonism] Book Recommendation
      > List,
      > I've mentioned in the past that there are a growing number of defenders of a
      > "substance dualist" philosophy of mind against the dominant physicalist
      > paradigm. Some of these books include John Foster's The Immaterial Self
      > (Oxford), Swinburne's The Evolution of the Soul (Oxford), and Moreland's Body
      > and Soul (which, btw, is a defense not of Cartesian dualism but of what is
      > variously described as classical Thomist-Bonaventurean-Neoplatonic dualism).
      > The book I am now recommending I was referred to by a neuroscientist friend
      > and colleague. It is by a group of neuroscientists and psychologists. It
      > defends the "F.W.H Myers- W. James" model with the latest research evidence
      > supporting the model.
      > Here is the info with publisher's blurb.
      > Irreducible Mind: Toward a Psychology for the 21st Century, With CD containing
      > F. W. H. Myers's hard-to-find classic 2-volume Human Personality (1903) and
      > selected contemporary reviews. Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. ( 2009).
      > Edward F. Kelly (Editor), Edward F. Kelly (Author) , Emily Williams Kelly
      > (Author), Adam Crabtree (Author), Alan Gauld (Author), Michael Grosso
      > (Author), Bruce Greyson (Author)
      > Publisher Description
      > Current mainstream opinion in psychology, neuroscience, and philosophy of mind
      > holds that all aspects of human mind and consciousness are generated by
      > physical processes occurring in brains. Views of this sort have dominated
      > recent scholarly publication. The present volume, however,
      > demonstrates--empirically--that this reductive materialism is not only
      > incomplete but false. The authors systematically marshal evidence for a
      > variety of psychological phenomena that are extremely difficult, and in some
      > cases clearly impossible, to account for in conventional physicalist terms.
      > Topics addressed include phenomena of extreme psychophysical influence,
      > memory, psychological automatisms and secondary personality, near-death
      > experiences and allied phenomena, genius-level creativity, and 'mystical'
      > states of consciousness both spontaneous and drug-induced. The authors further
      > show that these rogue phenomena are more readily accommodated by an
      > alternative
      > 'transmission' or 'filter' theory of mind/brain relations advanced over a
      > century ago by a largely forgotten genius, F. W. H. Myers, and developed
      > further by his friend and colleague William James. This theory, moreover,
      > ratifies the commonsense conception of human beings as causally effective
      > conscious agents, and is fully compatible with leading-edge physics and
      > neuroscience. The book should command the attention of all open-minded persons
      > concerned with the still-unsolved mysteries of the mind.
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      How about this? The physical universe is perhaps best regarded as a vast
      hologram, and we are holograms within it. One hologram can presumably shake
      hands with another hologram, without wither feeling there is anything
      strange going on. It occurs to me that the reason why for Plato there is
      virtually no Œmind-body¹ problem is that he ragred the body somewhat in this
      way ‹ a combination of basic triangles, or geometrical bodues, stacked end
      to end, as in the Timaeus. JMD

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