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Re: [nde] Re: hormone stuff - OT -HELEN

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  • Dana.Hardy
    What awesome information for all of us females. Thank you too for the website info. ... From: DebraChurch3805@aol.com To: nde@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday,
    Message 1 of 4 , Feb 1, 2006
      What awesome information for all of us females.  Thank you too for the website info. 
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      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:11 AM
      Subject: Re: [nde] Re: hormone stuff - OT -HELEN

       
      Hi Helen
       
      I'm definitely not an expert on anything but my own body.  I dont know if progesterone is what you would need.  Achey tired muscles could be a symptom of so many things that I really hate to speculate on whats causing it, but if you havent had ANY hormone replacement since you went through early menopause at 37 then I would have to say, this could be a symptom of some bone loss or really early osteoporosis or osteo arthritis, and these ARE things that happen to some menopausal women who dont take any hormone replacement therapy.  This is not to say that everyone should do some kind of HRT, only those that feel their quality of life is affected in a negative way by the absent hormones. 
       
      I had my ovarian function tested a couple of years ago, after my hysterectomy, I had some symptoms (symptom was the desire to kick husband out of bed and onto couch forever).  They found that I tested normal all around except for two things, progesterone and testosterone.  I had always been low on progesterone, and had miscarriages and difficulty carrying pregnancies to term so that was not a surprise.  The testosterone was because I didnt know women were supposed to have any testosterone, I thought that was just for men.  But apparently we are supposed to have some too, though not as much as men.
       
      Anyway, I wanted them to give me progesterone because the research I did showed it was better to replace the progesterone and let your body make its own testosterone than to replace the testosterone.  Replacing testosterone in women is difficult, resulting sometimes in voice changes and hair growing on faces!  So I thought of course they will think I am being sensible.
       
      But no.  My dr. said replace the testosterone, here are some drops.  She offered a long list of drugs if I wanted them for libido etc and I took the prescriptions and never filled them.  I did try the testosterone and it CAUSED me to have hot flashes where previously I had none.  Nothing good came of it and after 2 months I stopped taking it.
       
      My dr was staunchly against progesterone, she said it is only for women who have a uterus.  She said if you do not have a uterus you do not need progesterone because progesterone in women not having babies is only to protect the uterus from cancer caused by estrogen dominance.  Well this is OLD MEDICAL SCHOOL THINKING.  Progesterone is not just for that.  I had thought my dr to be very well informed, but she aparently left medical school and decided never to learn another thing and just hold fast to her TIRED OLD IDEAS.
       
      So anyway! 
      I havent been back to see her.  Because of financial limitations I just use over the counter progesterone cream, but would love to have an actual doctor that could prescribe me the proper dosage.  I know just enough to know not to take progesterone pills which are not the same as the cream. 
       
      The progesterone cream does this for me:    I feel calmer.  I actually feel happier if that is possible?  I dont feel like kicking hubby to the couch forever, I can actually entertain the idea of having sex.  I dont know what else it helps, but i feel BETTER.
       
       I just dont have the money to go doctor shopping right now.  I will be doing it though in the future because I dont see myself going "all natural" into my older age.  Even though I have already gone through surgical menopause, I still have my ovaries, albeit lazy ones, they do enough to keep me from hot flashing etc.  At some point though I will go through ovarian menopause and then I will need some hormones for sure because if I need something NOW, God or the Universe only knows what I will need in the future just to stay SANE.
      But only bio-identical is ok, and for me, only the minimums are necessary, just to feel a little better. 
       
      There are some women who should never have hormone replacement of any kind and I actually fall into this category because I had blood clots in my lungs after my surgery.  I have been tested and they have told me the risk I had for blood clots is gone and I could theoretically try some hormones, but they wouldnt recomend it.  But, I know that I would rather replace some hormones and live with a little risk, than live without them because I am so affected by the lack of them.  I think ok I can have a less risky life.....or better life....
       
      Here are some links for you.  Menopause: Bioidentical Hormones, (great information on this website)
       
      This other one is a hysterctomy support group but they know TONS about progesterone and all hormone replacement therapies and they are super nice.  The lady that runs the website is named Becky and she is very knowledgeable and helpful and will actually call you on the phone to discuss hormones etc with you if you want. 
       
       
      the following is copied from the first website, info on progesterone.
       
      Debi
       
      PROGESTERONE

      Progesterone is produced by the ovaries and the adrenal glands in women and, in smaller amounts, in the testes and the adrenal glands in men. One of its most important functions is in the female reproductive cycle. Progesterone prepares the lining of the uterus for implantation of a fertilized egg, then helps to maintain it during pregnancy. If pregnancy does not occur it signals the uterus to shed this lining.

      Progesterone also plays an important role in brain function and is often called the "feel good hormone" because of its mood enhancing and antidepressant effects. Optimum levels of progesterone can mean feelings of calm and well being, while low levels of progesterone can mean feelings of anxiety, irritability and even anger. Current research shows that progesterone may pay a role in the maintenance of the nervous system, the sense of touch, and motor function.

       
       
       
      In a message dated 1/31/2006 6:30:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, helen_yamba@... writes:
      DEAR DEBBIE
      it was with great interest i read your post
      i am 51 year old and i went through menopause early at the age of 37 years
      my doctor does not check any of my women hormones and i have been suffering
      with a lot of aching hurting tight tired muscles
      could you tell me more about this hormone and what are the symptoms of lack
      of it in your bloodstream
      hugs helen
       
    • heartsrox@aol.com
      In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:40:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dana.hardy@insightbb.com writes: What awesome information for all of us females. Thank you too
      Message 2 of 4 , Feb 2, 2006
        In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:40:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dana.hardy@... writes:
        What awesome information for all of us females.  Thank you too for the website info. 
                   Here ! Here ! very thoughtful =0) love , M.J.
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        Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:11 AM
        Subject: Re: [nde] Re: hormone stuff - OT -HELEN

         
        Hi Helen
         
        I'm definitely not an expert on anything but my own body.  I dont know if progesterone is what you would need.  Achey tired muscles could be a symptom of so many things that
         
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