Hi Stephen, why you are disappointed or why you come to the conclusion?
Did you have tried to know the answer?
( It's not good to come to conclusion or become discourage without trying to know answer.)
Your short answer 'illusion' this also seems to be correct. But we would have to know which is the illusion. 'Me' is the illusion. 'Time' is the illusion, which misunderstanding is illusion? we have to know it
on 27 september about your question I had asked you some question but you had not answered it. If you were answered, then I was given the answer for the, question what is me?
Without trying to know answer why you are disappointing. I am pasting the 27/09/ my response here. Please see it and answer my question and I will answer your question.
Re: The self and time passing
Stephen quote The question is what is this self we are talking about that experiences time
I've no idea how to answer the question but having thought about it I've come to
believe it is an important question in understanding the self and conscious
David quote You could do a PhD thesis on this and
not come out much further ahead!
My guess is that your question is one that we humans are incapable of
answering, perhaps ever, but at least for a long time. Still, it's fun
to talk about these things, no?
Hi friends, (my (urain) response)
It's not seems to me so hard question. But my question is after understanding self, what you will do? Do you will remember it always, at every time ? Is it possible to you?
Ok, I come to your question. Do you tell me what is the time? and at the moment, what you think about yourself? (what you are?)
--- In email@example.com, "Stephen Lawrence" <stephnlawrnce@...> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> We generally agree that we experience time passing.
> The question is what is this self we are talking about that experiences time passing?
> The problem is it seems to conflict with the idea that we are the process, as we couldn't experience time passing if we were, we somehow have to wholly move along each moment of the process.
> I've no idea how to answer the question but having thought about it I've come to believe it is an important question in understanding the self and conscious experience.
U R A I N
"Our thoughts, our actions, anything will not go waste, we always get results to our thoughts and actions.
Therefore we have to carefull in thinking and working".
--- On Wed,
10/12/11, stephnlawrnce@... <stephnlawrnce@...>
From: stephnlawrnce@... <stephnlawrnce@...>
Subject: Re: [naturalismphilosophyforum] The self and time passing
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 11:08 AM
Your question combines two of the hardest problems in cognitive science
and physics, the nature of subjective experience (aka, "the hard
problem") and the nature of time.
Yes, I combine them because I think this is intrinsic to what the self is.
One might say take care of your future self, meaning you now shouldn't do things that will make things difficult for you in the future, care about your future self, empathise with your future self, feel compassion for your future self.
But we know there is more to the way we feel about this, what we think and feel is me now will be around tomorrow!
That's what I find puzzling. What is it that's wholly present now that will be wholly present tomorrow?
Sorry if people have already attempted to answer that and it's gone over my head.
And is the short answer, it's an illusion?