Re: [mythsoc] Rowling - an Inkling??
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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Rowling - an Inkling??
> "Has anyone here read the "Left Behind" books?"
> I think that aside from being terribly fundemental in their approach (has
anyone seen Jim LaHayne's, i think that is name, television show?), they are
scary and funny to read. It is like a corporate seminar for Team God.
Actualization and Old Tyme Religion.
<guffaw> Not another "old time religion" circa 1970!
> If you want to be really scared, read "Are We Living in the End Times,"
It's a non-fiction book by the same writers
This unhealthy fascination with millennialism and praying that any second
now Jesus is going to return and sweep us all into the clouds really puzzles
me. Aren't there people out there quite soberly discussion what to do if
the Rapture occurs while they're driving or if they're indoors or whatever?
For some reason I remember Rev. Lovejoy from "The Simpsons", staring
wild-eyed into the camera and shouting, "IT'S IN REVELATIONS, PEOPLE!" Yet
part of the joke is that Rev. Lovejoy in other episodes has shown himself
quite willing to compromise and tread on every other principle and tradition
of his church if it will keep his congregation from abandoning him
Screwtape addresses the point quite astutely, I think, although he doesn't
refer to obsession with the Rapture in particular. He says that one of the
best ways to lead a man astray is to fix his mind on the Future. The Past
doesn't do so well because it is unchanging (but it is also largely unknown,
hence the legions of believers in reincarnation, serene in the belief that
they were Roman generals or handmaids for Cleopatra or whatever. No
believer in reincarnation is ever the reincarnation of a czarist Russian
serf or a Lacedaemonian helot.) The Present is what we _should_ be
attending to. But the Future, ah, that's a different story, because it is
largely unreal. Coax a man to the point where he'll tread over everyone in
his way or ignorant of the most pressing matters pushed under his nose
because he's set his eyes on the Future, and you've got him. _Facilis
descensus Averni_. That the Future with which these millennialists are so
obsessed is in the Bible doesn't make it any less potent a force for
twisting a man's soul--indeed, if anything, it doubles and trebles its
- Thank you, David, for putting this so aptly.
From: David S Bratman <dbratman@...>
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:33:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Rowling - an Inkling??
Lizzie, what do you mean? That writing in the spirit of the Inklings
should be currently pertinent? Lewis wouldn't think so. He says somewhere
that nothing goes out of date faster than that which tries hardest to stay
up to date. (My own phrasing of this, conceived independently, is "Those
who live by the cutting edge die by the cutting edge.") The Inklings were
in search of what was eternally up to date, and that is why their 40 to 70
year old novels are still meaningful and read today. LOTR in particular
was considered by many to be ludicrously out of step with the current
concerns of the 1950s, but the Inklings suspected it would wear better than
many of the more typical cultural artifacts of the era, and they were
right. Those who admired it when it was new thought it would be a
masterpiece at any date.
That spirit is part of what I'm looking for when I'm searching for new
books in the spirit of the Inklings. I want books that would have been
just as good if they were published 50 years ago as they are now, because
those are the ones that will be just as good 50 years from now.
- David Bratman
At 07:23 AM 3/1/2003 -0500, Lizzie Triano wrote:
>I think it is worth discussing. I don't know what my opinion is on theYahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT
>specific Rowling question, but I have long been developing the opinion that
>the Inkling Spirit today would be perhaps unrecognizable to the Inklings
>Then. After all, the churches probably are, post-Vatican-II and ordaining
>women priests, arguing the various sex and social justice issues, and all
>sorts of such things. There is surrealism and spirituality in the
>non-churched (which was of course true in the Victorian era), and there
>needs must be practicality and stuff in the church (which I would imagine
>there was among veteran Christians such as Tolkien, more than among today's
>peace-raised peoples). We are not hungry enough, we are too content. What
>would the Spirit tell stories about today?
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