RE: [mythsoc] Rowling - an Inkling??
> I suppose one could argue that these three virtues =are= expressed in HARRYIn fact, despite Lewis's claim, "hope" and "charity" are not exclusively
Christian (though, by nature, faith in Christ is exclusively Christian).
I would further argue that ALL western literature is informed by Christianity,
because all of western society is informed by Christianity. Even strong atheists
have been known to say "go to hell."
> But if one writer says that Harry being saved thro' his mother's love is anWe *like* redemptive characters. Those that grow and learn and redeem their
> example of Christian virtues (which I have seen done), another could riposte
> that mothers who aren't Christian also love their children and sacrifice for
errors. I wouldn't say HP is a "Christian" book anymore than I would say LotR is
or The Stand is. The Stand (by Stephen King) have *very* strong themes of faith
and hope and charity running through it, but I wouldn't call it a Christian
Maybe I'm just too picky? I assign the term "Christian" to a book that directly
relates itself to christianity, such as the Narnia books and the Left Behind
series. (Sorry to mention those in the same sentence. That should not be seen to
indicate that they are anwhere close to each other in quality and execution.)
> Anybody here want to root for Christian values in HARRY?Sure (Spoilers of books 1 -3)
Faith. - At the end of Book 1, when he drinks the potion that Hermione has
Hope. - I don't really have one on this one.
Charity. - When he defends Dumbledore's name at the end fo Book 2. Also, when he
uses the time travel in Book 3 not only to save Sirius, but also Hagrid's pet.
Jason M. Abels
"The world is coming down around our ears and you're sticking at a few
vampires!" - Ben Mears, _Salem's Lot_
- Thank you, David, for putting this so aptly.
From: David S Bratman <dbratman@...>
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:33:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Rowling - an Inkling??
Lizzie, what do you mean? That writing in the spirit of the Inklings
should be currently pertinent? Lewis wouldn't think so. He says somewhere
that nothing goes out of date faster than that which tries hardest to stay
up to date. (My own phrasing of this, conceived independently, is "Those
who live by the cutting edge die by the cutting edge.") The Inklings were
in search of what was eternally up to date, and that is why their 40 to 70
year old novels are still meaningful and read today. LOTR in particular
was considered by many to be ludicrously out of step with the current
concerns of the 1950s, but the Inklings suspected it would wear better than
many of the more typical cultural artifacts of the era, and they were
right. Those who admired it when it was new thought it would be a
masterpiece at any date.
That spirit is part of what I'm looking for when I'm searching for new
books in the spirit of the Inklings. I want books that would have been
just as good if they were published 50 years ago as they are now, because
those are the ones that will be just as good 50 years from now.
- David Bratman
At 07:23 AM 3/1/2003 -0500, Lizzie Triano wrote:
>I think it is worth discussing. I don't know what my opinion is on theYahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT
>specific Rowling question, but I have long been developing the opinion that
>the Inkling Spirit today would be perhaps unrecognizable to the Inklings
>Then. After all, the churches probably are, post-Vatican-II and ordaining
>women priests, arguing the various sex and social justice issues, and all
>sorts of such things. There is surrealism and spirituality in the
>non-churched (which was of course true in the Victorian era), and there
>needs must be practicality and stuff in the church (which I would imagine
>there was among veteran Christians such as Tolkien, more than among today's
>peace-raised peoples). We are not hungry enough, we are too content. What
>would the Spirit tell stories about today?
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