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  • Christine Howlett
    Excalibur is the one movie I have ever walked out on. Fortunately I was with my sister and her young baby. Baby made a little fuss and we walked with
    Message 1 of 8 , Jan 8, 2002
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      'Excalibur' is the one movie I have ever walked out on. Fortunately I was
      with my sister and her young baby. Baby made a little fuss and we walked
      with gratitude. After the first ten minutes as I recall. Gosh that was
      putrid.
      Christine

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      From: Jeremy Robinson <jrobinson@...>
      To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com <mythsoc@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:02 PM
      Subject: [mythsoc] Middle Ages epics


      >>From Jeremy Robinson
      >
      >Watched a bit of 'Excalibur' last night. Yeouch!
      >Gotta be thankful that, despite all the recent
      >complaints about 'LOTR', about all its omissions,
      >alterations and pointless additions, 'LOTR' isn't
      >as bad as 'Excalibur'! 'Excalibur' has bad acting
      >(despite Brit thesps), 1980s lipgloss, hair &
      >make-up, really ropey looping (dubbing), wacky
      >set design and some not so special effects. Plus
      >there's John Boorman's Jungian mysticism. And Ron
      >Moody's willfully weird Merlin. Phew!
      >And Boorman spent months planning to shoot 'LOTR'
      >in the late 1960s. Thing about Boorman is, he's a
      >very interesting director, with some unusual
      >ideas, but he promises much more than he
      >delivers, and far too often flounders. I'd much
      >rather see his version of 'LOTR' than Peter
      >Jackson's, in a way, though, because Jackson is
      >run-of-the-mill by comparison with some
      >directors. Jackson, though, hadn't promised
      >anything more than a good evening's
      >entertainment, and certainly doesn't have the
      >mythic pretensions of directors like Boorman.
      >(I'd love to see fellow Kiwi director Vincent
      >Ward take on Tolkien). On the other hand, if
      >Boorman or some such director had tackled 'LOTR',
      >it might've turned out like 'Excalibur', or the
      >Costner 'Robin Hood', or some other naff recent
      >mediaeval epic.
      >It's really difficult to do a mediaeval (or any
      >historical) epic nowadays, getting the tone
      >right. One method is to be sombre, sincere, and
      >increase the macho/ gore level ('Braveheart', and
      >'son of Braveheart', i.e., 'Gladiator'), which's
      >the route 'LOTR' took, but more common is the
      >camp, self-conscious approach ('Robin Hood',
      >'Knight's Tale', 'Conan'). I'm glad New Line/
      >Wingnut/ Osbourne/ Jackson et al took the sombre,
      >'Braveheart' 'we mean it, maaan' route but,
      >selfishly, I'd love to see a really visionary
      >approach to Tolkien, a la Vincent Ward, Boorman,
      >Gilliam, etc.
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