Re: [mythsoc] Peter Jackson's Two Towers
- In a message dated 01/05/02 10:30:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<< What happened to Aragorn's great scene in Bree ("If I was
after the Ring, I could have it -- NOW")? >>
Oh yes! That's a winner. Thanks for the reminder.
I haven't seen the movie yet. Prolly will eventually. But it won't be able
to compare to the book. Consider it something completely different.
- Haven't yet seen the movie, I'm going to give Jackson some
Most of my friends who have read the book have now seen the
movie and were very favorable. The one cut part generally
is Tom Bombadil, but as one friend put it, just how much can
fit into one movie?
As to Two Towers, I expext all the chars you mentioned will
present.Perhaps not as fully realized as in the book, but
are such an intricate part of the plot, I can't imagine they
will be left out
I have some thoughts on the Merry and Pippin discussion, but
will save them
until after I see the movie when I am on vacation in another
week. I plan to
catch LoTR and HP!
Hello! I'm new here, so I thought I would take the opportunity
post a couple of comments I made on another Tolkien list.
I am not hopeful about PJ's Two Towers. There is so much
the last two books to introduce, I cannot imagine him taking
it on. Fangorn, Rohan, and Gondor all involve the presentation
entirely new sets of characters. Does anyone seriously think
Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, Faramir, Denethor, and the rest of the
figures are all going to make the cut? I expect intense (and
PJ's Fellowship fails for me because I think he has missed the
of the book. The scenes I most looked forward to were missing
badly botched. The Lorien sequence, including Galadriel's
with Sam and Gimli and the gift-giving, is utterly crucial to
up much of the rest of the novel, and it is simply thrown away
movie. What happened to Aragorn's great scene in Bree ("If I
after the Ring, I could have it -- NOW")? To the full scope of
Frodo's vision from the top of Amon Hen (the most beautifully
passage in the entire novel, if you ask me)? Missed
opportunities...Instead we get meaningless battles between
and Saruman and between the Fellowship and a cave-troll. Many
scenes that knock me out in The Two Towers, such as Pippin's
at the palantir or Faramir's temptation, will probably be
bungled. I'll go to the next film expecting another train
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- Bill wrote:
> As to Two Towers, I expext all the chars you mentioned willAdvantage Bill on this one. I checked the official LOTR movie
> be present.
> Perhaps not as fully realized as in the book, but
> since they
> are such an intricate part of the plot, I can't imagine they
> will be left out.
website, which I hadn't looked at in months, and ascertained that
there are actors listed for all those characters except Treebeard,
whom I assume will be computer-generated. All the additional actors
were *not* listed at the Internet Movie Database, which is generally
a highly accurate source for information on upcoming movies; hence my
lack of faith that the characters would appear. I quite agree that
they are an intricate part of the plot, which is why I worried about
them being cut. So I stand corrected, happily.
- --- In mythsoc@y..., "mark_r_harris" <mark_r_harris@y...> wrote:
> Advantage Bill on this one. I checked the official LOTR movieIMDB is just a glorified rumor mill that gets its information from
> website, which I hadn't looked at in months, and ascertained that
> there are actors listed for all those characters except Treebeard,
> whom I assume will be computer-generated. All the additional actors
> were *not* listed at the Internet Movie Database, which is
> generally a highly accurate source for information on upcoming
> movies; hence my lack of faith that the characters would appear. I
> quite agree that they are an intricate part of the plot, which is
> why I worried about them being cut. So I stand corrected, happily.
visitor contributions, with occasional editorial correction or input.
Treebeard will be in the movie. John Rhys-Davies is doing his voice.
Apparently, the weekend before Christmas, Peter told reporters that
more screen time would be devoted to "the king and his son" (as some
reports put it). I have since seen conflicting explanations/reports
which state that more time will be given to Denethor and Faramir
(only Faramir appears in the second book) or to Theoden and Eomer.
It appears that the biggest change will occur with Arwen. It remains
to be scene whether her part in the movie -- as filmed -- makes the
cut, but there are screen captures of her in Lothlorien with
Galadriel and Celeborn on some Web sites. She also reportedly leads
a company of Elves to Rohan with Haldir of Lothlorien.
On the other hand, Ian McKellen said that she will not appear in
Rohan before her marriage to Aragorn. But then, he also said (last
year) that there would be no prologue to the movie, and he had to
retract that claim in late November or early December, after he
finally saw the movie for the first time.
> I'll go to the next film expecting another train wreck.Very likely, then, that's exactly what you'll find.