Re: [mythsoc] Tolkien beats Rowling?
- At 07:12 AM 11/30/2001 , Brian M. Carney wrote:
>The Battle of the BooksI regret whenever someone uses a good author as a club to bash another good
>No contest. Tolkien runs rings around Potter.
author, even if the first author is clearly better.
Voldemort's motivation may be sketchy, but so was Sauron's half-way through
LOTR, which is where we are in the Harry Potter saga. In fact, much of
Sauron's motivation was explained neither in LOTR nor The Silmarillion, but
is more fully explored only in Letters and some of the late HoME texts.
So far, Voldemort seems to be driven by a demon similar to that which drove
Shakespeare's Richard III. And if Carney wants to call Shakespeare a
shallow author, he should go right ahead. (Rowling's character depiction
of Voldemort, especially in _Goblet of Fire_, is the worst thing she's
written, but that's not the issue here.)
Perhaps not so much in the first book, and certainly not in the film (one
instance - chasing Draco on the broomstick - is glossed over and mishandled
in the film), but Harry faces many interesting moral dilemmas, particularly
when facing a conflict between following the rules and doing what appears
to be the right and honest thing. One may disagree with Harry's
conclusion, but Rowling is not shying away from moral principles, and
indeed (especially in a couple instances in _Goblet_) facing up to them
with some subtlety, it seems to me.
Wendell Wagner wrote:
>This guy thinks _The Lord of the Rings_ is about World War II. Well, no,But Brian Carney wrote:
>actually. If it's about a war in Tolkien's lifetime, it's about World War I.
>That Tolkien, who wrote "The Lord of the Rings" during World War II andSeeing a message in it for a later time is not at all incompatable with its
>published it shortly after, saw this as a message for his times was made
>plain in his foreword to the second edition.
being inspired by an earlier time, and is actually a requisite of the work
having a meaning beyond the immediate and of having what Tolkien called
applicability. Indeed, Carney in his next sentence goes on to say that
Tolkien "savaged" the WW2 analogy: in other words, it's NOT about World War
II. Nor is Carney saying that this is the only message: his previous
paragraph discusses Tolkien's universal principle, and the quoted sentence
demonstrates its applicability. Perhaps Carney should have mentioned World
War I as well, but it's a short article, and his topic is not either
author's inspirations, but their applicability.
- In a message dated 11/30/01 11:00:06 AM Central Standard Time, jbcroft@...
> I think she'll be making aI noticed those hints, too, this time through.
> lot more out of his wand sharing its ancestry with Voldemort's and of the
> fact that the sorting hat wanted to put him in Slytherin.