Re: [Sales of Lewiss books]
- WendellWag@... wrote:
In a message dated 7/13/99 5:29:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> However, much to my shock, I recently heard someone call MacDonald's work ait had to do
> little too "new age" for her. After a lengthy discussion she agreed that
> with some personal perceptions that might be a little skewed, rather thanthe
> actual work of MacDonald, itself.I've heard of people who think that Charles Williams's books flirt with
In any case, we've established that some religious bookstores are rather
lightweight. Can people tell me how well Lewis's books sell in non-religious
bookstores? What surprised me was not only that there were only about 10 of
Lewis's books in the religious bookstore I checked (a Family Books in the
Laurel Center Mall), but that there were about 120 of his books (counting
books about him) in the largest of the Washington(DC)-area bookstores (the
Borders in White Flint Mall). This was quite a satisfactory selection of
Lewis's books, I thought.
The bigger surprise to me was that there was 20 of his books at Kramer Books
and Afterwords, a hip latenight bookstore/cafe in the Dupont Circle
neighborhood in D.C., which was as many books as any author in their
philosophy/religion section. This store is in a neighborhood that likes to
think of itself as bohemian (and being in D.C., it also tries to appeal to
policy wonks). Historical note: It was one of the two bookstores subpoened
by Ken Starr for a list of books bought by Monica Lewinsky. (The other was
the Barnes & Noble in Georgetown.)
So while some religious bookstores are a little lightweight, it looks to me
like some mainstream bookstores are not lightweight. That's why I wonder if
Lewis's readership is now perceived as being mainstream.
I daresay that I completely understand why there would be
some people that would see Williams books as flirting with
occultism.However,the problem is that they are written byu
someone with an understanding of the REAL supernatural.
Those with a RELIGIOUS bent would get upset about it due
to the realism.Too few professing Christians are unac-
quainted with the real supernatural."Mainstream"thought
and mainstream churches haven't a real clue what the bap-
tism of the Holy Spirit means.An intense re-read of "That
Hideous Strength" by Lewis or "Many Dimensions,""War In
Heaven,"and "The Greater Trumps" and taking them seriously,
instead of as merely entertainment gives a clearer under-
standing of real life than most of the theology books
availible.There are those of us who have lived lives more
closely approaching these books who see standard portrayal
of 'realism' as a pathetic portrayal of life in shades
of grey,similar to the town waiting in fear,for sunset,
in Lewis's "The Great Divorce," or L'Engle's world of grey
people in "A Wrinkle In Time."The war between good and
evil is not an intellectual abstract.The 'Ecthroi'of
L'Engle's trilogy exist.(Ecthroi is a Greek word meaning
enemies who hold a blood vendetta, a personal and bitter
grudge,against you, much like the Hebrew word, Satan.)
The presence of that kind of book in a bohemian area is
not surprising,as there are people who enjoy this kind of
book as entertainment,having not one clue that these are
books about events more real than they would really be
comfortable believing actually occur.Some people like to
play with fire,never recognizing what it is.The greek word
for sorcery IS pharmakos,after all.
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- In a message dated 7/16/99 2:10:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> I daresay that I completely understand why there would be some people thatwould > see Williams books as flirting with occultism. . . The presence of
that kind of book > in a bohemian area is not surprising,as there are people
who enjoy this kind of
> book as entertainment,having not one clue that these are books about eventsmore > real than they would really be comfortable believing actually occur.
Actually, I don't think Kramer Books sells any of Charles Williams's books.
I think you take the word "bohemian" in a stronger sense than I meant it.
Like Greenwich Village in New York, Dupont Circle is now a little too
expensive to live in for real bohemians. The residents are most young
bureaucrats who don't want to live in the suburbs and like being right next
to good bookstores, theaters, museums, etc. My point was that a store in
such a neighborhood that's not remotely a religious bookstore still sells a
lot of Lewis's books, making me think that Lewis's readership is rather
mainstream these days.
- At 4:50 AM -0400 7/16/99, WendellWag@... wrote:
>The Order of the Golden Dawn does tend to strike me as being occult,
>> I daresay that I completely understand why there would be some people that
>would > see Williams books as flirting with occultism. . .
to the very limited extent that I have any knowledge of it.
> My point was that a store inHard to define 'mainstream' in America these days. There seem to be
>such a neighborhood that's not remotely a religious bookstore still sells a
>lot of Lewis's books, making me think that Lewis's readership is rather
>mainstream these days.
two main streams in collision.
I talked with an editor for a major Christian publishing house last
year, and he complained to me that he cannot get the good fiction
published - the Christian public will not buy good fiction in
Christian book stores, though they -do- go to the general book stores
and buy it. Lawhead (who is getting better at his craft) has made the
transition, but others, like Willis, have not. Which leaves us
reading Gresham, Stephenson and Helprin for good, thoughtful fiction.
That isn't all bad, but the dichotomy isn't, IMHO, a good thing.
It's 1999, where's Moonbase Alpha?
- In a message dated 7/16/99 8:32:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> At 4:50 AM -0400 7/16/99, WendellWag@... wrote:would > see Williams books as flirting with occultism. . .
> I daresay that I completely understand why there would be some people that
Um, please note that I was quoting from shield333@... (Hal May).