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  • Carl R Marcus
    A book about Tolkien by Humphrey Carpentier was re-released last year. I don t remember the full title, but it is worth reading. It discusses Tolkien s
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      A book about Tolkien by Humphrey Carpentier was re-released last year. I
      don't remember the full title, but it is worth reading. It discusses
      Tolkien's fascination with language as a large part of his mythology.
      Sorry if this has been posted before.
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      > 1. Re: Digest Number 601
      > From: Steve Schaper <sschaper@...>
      > 2. Fantasy article
      > From: "David S. Bratman" <dbratman@...>
      > 3. Re: Digest Number 601
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      > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:09:08 -0500
      > From: Steve Schaper <sschaper@...>
      > Subject: Re: Digest Number 601
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      > > Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:58:29 -0000
      > > From: "Vincent Ferre" <ferretolk@...>
      > > Subject: Re: a matter of life and death
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      > > When I read (mostly in England, for there's hardly a book on him
      in
      > > France, even at the Bibliothèque Nationale) many English and American
      > > critics for an essay on Tolkien, I was surprised to see that most of
      them
      > > work on sources, on the question of power, fantasy, etc. but that death
      and
      > > immortality, the core of the Lord of the Rings (and not only because
      Tolkien
      > > said so !), are often alluded to, but not really examined.
      > >
      > > Am I mistaken ? do you know interesting analysis on that point ?
      > >
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      > Don Williams, _Inklings of Reality_ has a chapter that deals with that.
      > He's on-list, too, I think.
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      > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:50:36 -0700
      > From: "David S. Bratman" <dbratman@...>
      > Subject: Fantasy article
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      > Here, for a change, is a fairly good general-media article on fantasy.
      > Principal topics, Le Guin and DWJ.
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      > No Polyester Ermine Here
      > Fantasy writers wage a noble battle against the forces of schlock.
      > By Polly Shulman
      > http://slate.msn.com/culturebox/entries/01-05-30_108987.asp
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      > Some of the messages posted in "The Fray" are very interesting, too, but I
      > think you have to register to read them.
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      > David Bratman
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      > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:00:33 -0500
      > From: "ted sherman" <tedsherman@...>
      > Subject: Re: Digest Number 601
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      > Tom Shippey's latest book, JRR Tolkien: Author of the Century, also
      > emphasizes death and suffering/evil.
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      > Ted
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      > From: Steve Schaper <sschaper@...>
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      > Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Digest Number 601
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      > > Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:58:29 -0000
      > > From: "Vincent Ferre" <ferretolk@...>
      > > Subject: Re: a matter of life and death
      >
      > > When I read (mostly in England, for there's hardly a book on him
      > in
      > > France, even at the Bibliothèque Nationale) many English and American
      > > critics for an essay on Tolkien, I was surprised to see that most of
      them
      > > work on sources, on the question of power, fantasy, etc. but that death
      > and
      > > immortality, the core of the Lord of the Rings (and not only because
      > Tolkien
      > > said so !), are often alluded to, but not really examined.
      > >
      > > Am I mistaken ? do you know interesting analysis on that point ?
      > >
      >
      > Don Williams, _Inklings of Reality_ has a chapter that deals with that.
      > He's on-list, too, I think.
      >
      >
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    • WendellWag@aol.com
      In a message dated 6/2/01 11:39:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ... There was a new edition of his biography of Tolkien last year, but that doesn t contain
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        In a message dated 6/2/01 11:39:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
        marcus@... writes:


        > A book about Tolkien by Humphrey Carpentier was re-released last year. I
        > don't remember the full title, but it is worth reading. It discusses
        > Tolkien's fascination with language as a large part of his mythology.
        > Sorry if this has been posted before.
        >

        There was a new edition of his biography of Tolkien last year, but that
        doesn't contain anything about death and immortality, which was what was
        asked about. Neither does his book _The Inkings_.

        Wendell Wagner


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      • Trudy Shaw
        ... From: WendellWag@aol.com To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Digest Number 602 In a message dated
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          Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:02 PM
          Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Digest Number 602


          In a message dated 6/2/01 11:39:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
          marcus@... writes:


          > A book about Tolkien by Humphrey Carpentier was re-released last year. I
          > don't remember the full title, but it is worth reading. It discusses
          > Tolkien's fascination with language as a large part of his mythology.
          > Sorry if this has been posted before.
          >

          There was a new edition of his biography of Tolkien last year, but that
          doesn't contain anything about death and immortality, which was what was
          asked about. Neither does his book _The Inkings_.

          Wendell Wagner


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          The only other book that comes to mind is the new edition of _The Letters of Tolkien_ that was released. I don't have my copy handy, but I think Carpenter was an editor on that. It certainly contains some of Tolkien's thoughts on mythology, language, death and immortality. But, of course, it's not really *by* Carpenter.

          Trudy Shaw


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