Re: "â¦ in defiance of Kipling"
- Bremer notwithstanding, this conversation it seems was a figment of someone's imagination, in addition to completely inverting Tolkien's views: Graves went up to Oxford in fall 1919, when Tolkien was not on the faculty at all but a staffer on the Dictionary; Graves left Oxford before Tolkien was elected P of A-S.
Letter No. 267 (Jan 1965) strongly implies that Tolkien had never met Graves 'in his youth:' "A remarkable creature, entertaining, likeable, odd, bonnet full of wild bees, half-German, half-Irish, very tall, must have looked like Siegfried/Sigurd in his youth, but an Ass."
(Note: The Professorship of Poetry which Graves held at the time was and is not really a faculty position, but a thrice-yearly guest lecturer gig).