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Re: [mythsoc] Edouard Kloczko, the linguistic specialist of the Mythsoc !

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  • Ferre
    Good evening to all, David, I’m talking about Kloczko, who did not give lectures to students and presented [his] research in seminars. (which, of course,
    Message 1 of 31 , Sep 11, 2012
      Good evening to all,
       
      David, I’m talking about Kloczko, who did not
      give "lectures to students" and "presented [his] research in seminars." (which, of course, many Tolkien scholars do): he’s been giving private ‘masterclasses’ (so to speak), or more precisely small groups lessons  (on Elvish) for years, which are not “lectures” & “seminars” at all. That’s why it is “pure fantasy” (sorry for the joke). and money comes into account here, also.
      I do not think that a separation has to be made between ‘academic’ scholars and scholars  outside the academy- as the Cerisy conference & the dictionary I’ve been editing sufficiently show. But between scholars  and people pretending that they are what they are not. Moreover,
      Kloczko is the main responsible for the absence, in France, of scholarship on Tolkien in the 80’s and 90’s. and it’s not the first time that he has problems with rules, intellectual fairplay & laws.

      as Sarah said, ‘his claim (lecturing and giving papers) is being used to "authenticate" an apparently invalid part of his claim’ ; as Janet adds, ‘ Kloczko is presenting himself as having an official capacity in the Mythopoeic Society, which he does not.
      best wishes,
      vincent

    • Patrick Wynne
      Good lord — Edouard has really gone off the rails. How sad, both for him personally, and for the unsuspecting reader who might not realize what hogwash
      Message 31 of 31 , May 25, 2013
        Good lord — Edouard has really gone off the rails. How sad, both for him personally, and for the unsuspecting reader who might not realize what hogwash Kloczko's book contains. Thank you for the excellent commentary.

        On May 25, 2013, at 8:01 AM, "David Giraudeau" <davidkiks@...> wrote:

         

        Hi all,

        in order to clarify our comments (mine, but also those of Vincent Ferré or Vivien Stocker) on Edouard Kloczko's statements, behaviour and last book (Fr. "Le haut elfique pour les débutants", Eng. "High Elvish for Beginners"), I made a quick English translation of my study of this book.

        It is available here:

        http://lambenore.free.fr/downloads/HED_eng.pdf

        Cordially,

        David


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