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Re: [mythsoc] Re: Illustrated Edition of Fouque's "The Magic Ring"

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  • WendellWag@aol.com
    Thanks, Jason. Back in the late 1960 s and early 1970 s, it seemed like every fantasy book that came out had to be labeled as in the tradition of Tolkien
    Message 1 of 31 , Jan 29, 2010
      Thanks, Jason.  Back in the late 1960's and early 1970's, it seemed like every fantasy book that came out had to be labeled as "in the tradition of Tolkien" or "the inspiration for Tolkien," even when that was a hopeless stretch.  Aren't we beyond that now?  Can't a fantasy book be sold without having to relate it to Tolkien?
      Wendell Wagner
      In a message dated 1/29/2010 10:25:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visualweasel@... writes:

      I realize this doesn’t quite answer the question you actually asked, but I think it gets to the heart of why you asked it. I don’t have a copy of the book either.
      From Doug Anderson’s “Book Notes” in Tolkien Studies 4 (2007): “Valancourt Books has reprinted in trade paperback the 1825 translation by Robert Pearse Gillies of The Magic Ring by Baron de la Motte Fouqué (ISBN 0977784126). Though advertised by the publisher as ‘one of the inspirations for Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings,’ the introduction by Amy H. Sturgis is much more cautious, claiming only that such works of German Romanticism as The Magic Ring influenced George MacDonald, and laid the foundation for Tolkien to follow afterward. Though Tolkien himself, in the printed record of his letters and essays, was oddly silent about works by the German Romantics, reprints of such neglected fantasies as The Magic Ring are welcome.” (pg. 324)
      See also this review (especially the second paragraph): http://www.sfsite. com/10a/mr233. htm

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      From: "WendellWag@ aol.com" <WendellWag@aol. com>
      To: mythsoc@yahoogroups .com
      Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:55:42 AM
      Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Illustrated Edition of Fouque's "The Magic Ring"

      What is the argument that Tolkien was influenced by "The Magic Ring"?  Please, give me something other than just a reference to an article that claims this.  Yeah, I could buy the book and read Amy Sturgis's introduction, but then I would already have bought the book. I'd like some detail about why it's supposed that Tolkien had been influenced by this book.  I don't recall reading anything about it before.

      Wendell Wagner

    • dale nelson
      And of course George MacDonald s brief answer to the question What is a fairy-tale? was Read Undine (in The Fantastic Imagination, I believe). Dale
      Message 31 of 31 , Feb 1, 2010
        And of course George MacDonald's brief answer to the question "What is a fairy-tale?" was "Read 'Undine'" (in "The Fantastic Imagination," I believe).

        Dale Nelson

        From: John Rateliff <sacnoth@...>
        To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 10:58:10 PM
        Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Re: Illustrated Edition of Fouque's "The Magic Ring"


        On Jan 31, 2010, at 7:27 AM, WendellWag@aol. com wrote:
        So does anyone here think that "The Magic Ring" is a great story?

        Haven't read it, though now that this new edition is out I probably will, once I track down a copy. 

           If you want a quick fix on whether or not you're likely to find it worth reading, an easy way to do so is to check out the same author's most famous work, UNDINE, conveniently reprinted in Doug Anderson's TALES BEFORE NARNIA.*  If you skim UNDINE (which shd also be available from any number of university libraries or possibly through interlibrary loan from your public library) and like it, you might want to follow up on THE MAGIC RING. If his masterpiece leaves you cold, you ought not to feel any compunction to read on (though I allow most authors the three-book rule, myself).

        --John R.

        *Doug notes that it's a work which CSL liked well enough to hunt down and read in the original German.


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