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  • Diane Joy Baker
    What a great question. One I might add is *The History of Our World Beyond the Wave* by R. E. Klein. That has a lot of lingering imagery. ---djb ... From:
    Message 1 of 13 , Sep 21, 2009
      What a great question. 
      One I might add is *The History of Our World Beyond the Wave*
      by R. E. Klein.  That has a lot of lingering imagery.  ---djb
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      Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:24 AM
      Subject: [mythsoc] Re: Ballantine Adult Fantasy Series


      Best would probably be the usual suspects: Clark Ashton Smith, James Branch
      Cabell, Lord Dunsany (although I must say I prefer his short stories to the
      novels), Lovecraft, Lud-in-the-Mist by Hope Mirrlees, and maybe the
      occasional William Morris or George MacDonald. And I have to say I really
      enjoyed the anthologies Lin Carter edited for the series -- Young Magicians
      and New Worlds for Old in particular. Worst would definitely be, as
      mentioned, The Shaving of Shagpat by George Meredith. I've also mentioned
      my feelings about the Night Land -- I really wish James Stoddard would
      finish his project/hobby of rewriting it in more readable prose. But I did
      find Hodgson's Boats of the Glen Carrig to be remarkably creepy and

      Honorable mention would also go to Mervyn Peake and E.R. Eddison --
      technically, I think they were precursors to the series although they may
      have been retroactively folded into it.

      And whenever I'd get a new volume, even if I wasn't going to read it right
      then, I'd always sit down and at least read Lin Carter's introduction. I
      know that much of what he said was factually dubious at best, but I still
      enjoy his clear enthusiasm and love for the books he was presenting and for
      the genre as a whole.

      So if we were going to assemble a contemporary version of the BAF, what
      would it include? My suggestions would include (in no particular order):

      Stardust by Neil Gaiman
      Dragonfly by Frederic Durban
      Night's Master by Tanith Lee
      The Thread That Binds the Bones by Nina Kiriki Hoffman
      Un-Lun-Dun by China Mieville
      War for the Oaks by Emma Bull

      But that'd be just the tip of the iceberg (and subject to sudden and
      unexplained change in the future) . . .

      Joe Hoopman

      >3a. Re: Ballantine Adult Fantasy Series
      > Posted by: "pegasus48124" pegasus48124@ yahoo.com pegasus48124
      > Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:48 pm ((PDT))
      >You say you've read the whole series (I'm getting there slowly,also reading
      many other things as I go). What were some of the best and the worst for
      you, if you don't >mind sharing?
      >--- In mythsoc@yahoogroups .com, "Joe Hoopman" <hoopmanjh@. ..> wrote:
      >> I didn't start seriously collecting the BAF until the 1990's, but I
      >> had several volumes (Clark Ashton Smith and some of the Carter
      >> even before I realized there was such a thing as a Ballantine Adult
      >> series. I was able to acquire most of the series over the years just by
      >> stopping in at Uncle Hugo's Science Fiction Bookstore and at Dreamhaven
      >> Books, both in Minneapolis, MN, and scanning the shelves; I picked up the
      >> last few stragglers online when this new-fangled Internet thing started
      >> take off.
      >> Back in the late 1990's I went through and read the entire series in BAF
      >> publication order. (Not all at once -- I'd read, say, five BAF volumes,
      >> then shift to something else for a while, then come back.) Some of the
      >> books were, um, challenging -- I found The Shaving of Shagpat almost
      >> unreadable, and there's always The Night Land to consider -- but it
      >> was an amazing collection.
      >> And after finishing the BAF, I sat down and read James Stoddard's The
      >> House and The False House, which I highly recommend to any Ballantine
      >> Fantasy fans (or indeed to anyone who just likes good book) -- Stoddard
      >> also a BAF fan and the books have lots of references, some subtle, some
      >> so much, to various characters and places from the series.
      >> Joe Hoopman

    • Joe Hoopman
      Coincidentally, I just read City at the End of Time a couple of months ago. I think there was actually a clear (if not explicit) reference to Hodgson and the
      Message 2 of 13 , Sep 23, 2009
        Coincidentally, I just read City at the End of Time a couple of months ago.
        I think there was actually a clear (if not explicit) reference to Hodgson
        and the Night Land at one point. I quite liked City, but I've always been a
        fan of entropic romance . . .

        Joe Hoopman

        Re: FW: Ballantine Adult Fantasy Series
        Posted by: "alexeik@..." alexeik@... celtbear49
        Date: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:44 am ((PDT))

        Greg Bear's _City at the End of Time_ (on the long list for the last
        MFA) is rather obviously indebted to _The Night Land_.
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