Re: Which Williams?
- ---"Marc Drayer" <mdrayer2001@...> wrote:
<< One book by Williams I've always wanted to read is his Arthurian
poem cycle called "Taliessen Through Logres." Any here read that and
can comment on it? >>
I have not. But Tolkien heard some of it read aloud, and of Williams'
Taliessin, he wrote, among other things:
"But here, it seems, a voyage of some swift bark
to that Black Sea (which now is mainly Red)
has much enlarged him, both in heart and head;
but still I understand not aught he said!"
That's from a 107-line poem that was published in _The Inklings_,
untitled there but more recently identified in Scull and Hammond's
_Companion & Guide_ by a very long title reminiscent of the full title
of _Farmer Giles of Ham_ (I would have missed it if not for David
Bratman's review of the Scull/Hammond volumes last year in _Mythprint_).
- At 12:58 PM 3/17/2008 -0500, David Emerson wrote:
>I find that (at least for me) the major stumbling block to enjoying CharlesOne of Tolkien's concerns in his later years was to separate his works from Williams's. He really disliked being thrown in a thematic heap with that very different writer, whose style and attitudes in literature he did not at all endorse. That only happened after critics started potting the Inklings as a unified group.
>Williams is the very fact of his association with Lewis and Tolkien. This
>originally led me to expect that his fiction would be somewhat like theirs.
>When I found it more to be like Raymond Chandler meets Aleister Crowley, it
>threw me for a loop.
We can thank a famous article by John Rateliff for clarifying that this was Tolkien's concern, and not any (non-existent) festering personal jealousy against Williams or any such rot, though belief in such still exists - there was an impervious nimnul spouting such nonsense on the Coinherence list just a few weeks ago.
At 09:15 PM 3/17/2008 +0000, Marc Drayer wrote:
>One book byTaliessin. And its followup, The Region of the Summer Stars. Not a work one can comment on briefly. Our local group got years of discussion out of those two books by taking one poem at a time and examining it line-by-line. It's really unreadable in any other way than slowly and carefully.
>Williams I've always wanted to read is his Arthurian poem cycle
>called "Taleissen Through Logres." Any here read that and can
>comment on it?