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RE: [mythsoc] Beowulf film

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  • Mike Foster
    Of course, the fact that many new readers came to Tolkien does not excuse the imperfections of Jackson s films. The point is that bad actions can have good
    Message 1 of 108 , Sep 3 9:12 AM
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      Of course, the fact that many new readers came to Tolkien does not
      excuse the imperfections of Jackson's films. The point is that bad
      actions can have good results: the lesson of Gollum.


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      From: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mythsoc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      Of Walkermonk@...
      Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:31 AM
      To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Beowulf film


      David, if I hadn't met Prof. Foster, I would believe that indeed he
      doesn't
      get it. But I *have* met him.

      Prof. Foster, I am starting to believe that you are being deliberately
      obtuse. Which is irritating when it comes from my 11-year-old in a
      discussion
      about the homework he doesn't want to do. With someone of your
      abilities, it's
      not irritating but rather kind of . . . sad. You're way too smart for
      this type
      of argument, Prof. Foster. David acknowledges (as do I) that yes, people

      read the books because of the movies. And, again, as David pointed out,
      people
      read the books because of Rankin-Bass and the other earlier ham-handed,
      laughably terrible animated films. The fact that people are drawn to the
      books does
      NOT by itself, as demonstrated above and explained quite clearly by
      David
      Bratman's emails, excuse the awfulness of Peter Jackson's films. And you
      know
      it.

      Grace Walker Monk


      In a message dated 9/3/2007 9:00:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
      mafoster@hughes. <mailto:mafoster%40hughes.net> net writes:

      Certainly the Jackson films could have been much better.

      Just as certainly, they brought many new readers to Tolkien. As you say
      below, David,
      "2) In the classic felix peccatum, the sin itself leads to the good
      result."

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      Message 108 of 108 , Dec 7, 2007
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        In a message dated 12/7/07 9:41:39 AM, dbratman@... writes:


        >
        > Very much the opposite opinion here. I don't recall anything harmful being
        > done to the text, but the image was definitely a problem. Tolkien says she was
        > "beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful." The only word in this
        > that Jackson seems to have followed was "terrible" - and he seems to be using
        > it in the sense of "scary and terrifying," rather than "eliciting awe" which
        > is what Tolkien presumably meant.
        >
        > Good point David! Beautiful and Terrible like an angel would have been more
        appropriate.




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