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RE: [mythsoc] Beowulf film

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  • Mike Foster
    Certainly the Jackson films could have been much better. Just as certainly, they brought many new readers to Tolkien. As you say below, David, 2) In the
    Message 1 of 108 , Sep 3, 2007
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      Certainly the Jackson films could have been much better.

      Just as certainly, they brought many new readers to Tolkien. As you say
      below, David,
      "2) In the classic felix peccatum, the sin itself leads to the good
      result."




      -----Original Message-----
      From: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mythsoc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      Of David Bratman
      Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 12:39 AM
      To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com; mythsoc@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [mythsoc] Beowulf film

      At 08:40 AM 9/2/2007 -0500, Mike Foster wrote:

      >if in years past I sprinkled a little
      >kerosene on the blaze, I don't intend to again, thanks all the same.

      I'm not asking you to. I'm hoping for a recognition of the problems.

      >One way to look at the Jackson films, it being Sunday morning and all,
      >is as -felix peccatum-, rather like Eve biting the apple, the
      felicitous
      >sin that led to the Redemption.

      You suggested that before too. But there are two problems:

      1) If it's a felix peccatum, on the grounds that it brought new readers
      to
      the book, then virtually _any_ Tolkien-related or Tolkien-inspired work,
      no
      matter how crappy, also qualifies as a felix peccatum, because those too
      have brought readers to the book.

      2) In the classic felix peccatum, the sin itself leads to the good
      result.
      But not here. Because it wasn't necessary for Jackson's film to have
      been
      so bad to have attracted people who'd become readers. A more
      aesthetically
      and morally faithful film would have been quite within Jackson's
      technical
      and creative capacities, it could have been just as successful at the
      box
      office, and probably more so, and would have attracted readers even more
      efficiently.



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    • aveeris523@aol.com
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      Message 108 of 108 , Dec 7, 2007
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        In a message dated 12/7/07 9:41:39 AM, dbratman@... writes:


        >
        > Very much the opposite opinion here. I don't recall anything harmful being
        > done to the text, but the image was definitely a problem. Tolkien says she was
        > "beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful." The only word in this
        > that Jackson seems to have followed was "terrible" - and he seems to be using
        > it in the sense of "scary and terrifying," rather than "eliciting awe" which
        > is what Tolkien presumably meant.
        >
        > Good point David! Beautiful and Terrible like an angel would have been more
        appropriate.




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