Re: Pan's Labyrinth
- I loved "A Scanner Darkly" - it would have gotten my vote over "Pan's
Labyrinth". "Children of Men" turned out to be too politically
heavy-handed for my taste; I like less preaching in my SF (cue Reese's
Peanut Butter Cup advert here).
-- Lynn --
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, David Bratman <dbratman@...> wrote:
> All you friends and foes of Pan's Labyrinth may be interested to
> it was presented with the Hugo Award for Best SF or Fantasy Dramatic
> Presentation (Long Form) a couple days ago.
> The other finalists were all book adaptations, and could form a
> different ways of doing it:
> A Scanner Darkly: a brilliant and pitch-perfect adaptation of a very
> and difficult novel. Hardly anyone saw it (I rushed to it the day it
> opened, but that's me), but it was never a novel designed to be
> filming it ws itself an act of bravery.
> The Prestige: how to badly adapt a good novel by poking giant holes
> plot big enough to drive a truck through (in one case, literally
> most irritating movie I saw last year.
> V for Vendetta: mostly it stays with too much witless exact fidelity
> original, draining it of life and character; sometimes it veers away,
> always pointlessly.
> Children of Men: I've neither read the book nor seen the movie. The
> got very bad reviews in the SF field (as the work of a non-genre
> had no idea she was regurgitating an old hack plot), but the movie
> to be better received without any indication that it had changed the
> significantly. Does that mean that we expect our films to
> hack plots?
- In the cool light of day the morning after viewing this, Jo and I
discovered that, while the movie was certainly wonderfully done, it was
a bit off-putting for the reasons Pat and Carl noted below-though, as
noted before, the girl's fate was something I would much rather not have
known in advance.
As Jo said, "It's fine that good finally overcame evil, but did there
have to be so much evil?" The ending, where the girl's death amounts to
the saving of her brother and her final glimpse of a beatific heavenly
vision with a God the Father (as well as David Crosby) lookalike seems
to be an obvious Christian parallel.
In reviewing this thread, especially the business with the grapes, it
seems fitting to cite Chesterton's "The Ethics Of Elfland" and his
Doctrine of Conditional Joy, where all good and evil hang on a random
choice to do or not to do a simple deed: Eve's apple, Pandora's box.
Tolkien mentions this in "On Fairy Stories." It certainly looms in the
amplification of the power of the Ring from -The Hobbit- to -The Lord of
the Rings-, where what had been a handy little talisman for Bilbo
becomes life or death for Frodo. That's why Jackson's plot change from
Faramir refusing to take the Ring from Frodo to the muddled digression
to Osgiliath is one of the more egregious offenses in the screenplay.
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf
Of Carl F. Hostetter
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Pan's Labyrinth
On Aug 22, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Patrick H. Wynne wrote:
> watching a helpless adolescent girl (probably delusional)
> being physically and psychologically abused for two hours, then shot
> dead, is NOT my idea of a good time!
> Am I the only one who absolutely loathed this film?
No, you are not.
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