Re: it's not in Tolkien
> >I'm also uncomfortable with the idea of keeping a Black List: weintend.
> >all make mistakes, and better to have those pointed out and corrected
> >than assign the offender to oblivion, into which the persistent
> >offenders will sink anyway.
> My apologies. I intended to say that we should keep a list of the
> mistakes, to see which ones are most common and thus most need refuting,
> but this came out saying something quite different that I did not
I think what David referred to was a list of misconceptions that
originate from the movie. I am in favor of such a list, not for the
purpose of putting down scholars who make mistakes or, for that
matter, bashing Peter Jackson (I, personally, like the movies.
They're not perfect reproductions of the original, but I believe it's
impossible to make a movie that's 100% faithful to its source
material, so I tend to be forgiving as long as the movie is at least
80% faithful, and faithful where it counts.) but for the sake of
maintaining high standards in scholarly studies on JRRT.
Anyway, my own list of movie deviations from the source material, in
no particular order:
1. The characterization of Faramir. 'Nuff said.
2. Fatty Bolger and Tom Bombadil were lopped off.
3. It took Frodo a longer time before actually leaving the Shire.
4. The dialogue where Gandalf explains about Frodo being meant to
find the ring takes place in Bag End, not Moria.
5. The part about Saruman turning against Sauron was de-emphasized.
6. (For those who've watched the Extended Edition) Saruman did not
die during the confrontation with GAndalf at Isengard, after Helm's
7. Gandalf's labors during the siege of Helm's Deep were not shown.
8. Merry and Pippin were not needed to convince the Ents to go to war.
9. When Eowyn rides into battle, the reader -- or any of the other
characters in the story, for that matter -- doesn't know it's her.
And Theoden never finds out it's her all along.
10. Frodo and Sam did not quarrel in the Cirith Ungol part. Both of
them entered Shelob's cave together.
11. The beacons were lit while Gandalf and Pippin were on the way to
Minas Tirith, although in the book as well as in the movie, it was too
late just the same.
13. In the Weathertop, Aragorn actually encouraged the hobbits to
build a fire.
14. Aragorn had Anduril with him all along from the start; it was the
banner of Gondor, not Anduril, that Elrond and his companions brought
to him before he entered the paths of the dead.
I'm sure there are more.
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, David Emerson
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> >There was once a science-fiction story in
> >wakes up in the distant future and asks for ahamburger. The futurians
> >reply, "A hamburger is a citizen of theGerman city of Hamburg. Were you
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> Does this have something to do with John F.