Re: [mythsoc] Re: Fastitocalon
It is just this kind of thing in a documentary/biography film (with
the right actors) on Tolkien that would be in order, I think.
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On 11/30/06, "Beregond. Anders Stenström" <beregond@...> wrote:
> Larry Swain wrote:
> >>In closing, I should say that I had wanted to find out why Tolkien took Fastitlocan for a tortoise rather than whale, but was unable to trace anything linguistically...not that I put that much effort into it.
> Tolkien's _Letters_, number 255, says that "Fastitocalon" in the
> Anglo-Saxon bestiary seems to be a corruption of _Aspido-chelone_
> (with a macron on the second "o"), which he translates "turtle with
> a round shield (of hide)".
> For what it's worth, I can mention that when I visited Oxford
> University's Museum of Natural History some years ago, practically
> the first thing facing one inside the entrance was a giant turtle.
> I do not know if it was there in Tolkien's time, but it looked as
> if it might have been.
> Chivalrous greetings,
- Jason wrote:
>Ah, I don't have my copy in front of me to refer to, but you must be (orCarpenter missed it in the chronological checklist of Tolkien's works in
>Shippey must have been) referring to its appearance in Stapeldon Magazine,
>Vol. 7, No. 40. The earlier version of "Oliphaunt" was also published in
>that issue. And lest you think I just rattled that off from the top of my
>head, hahae, here's a useful little chronological bibliography I often
>find myself referring to:
the back of the first edition of the Biography, but picked it up in the
1987 edition and later. It's also listed elsewhere, e.g. the Tolkien
Descriptive Bibliography (1993). A few lines are quoted in the
"Fastitocalon" entry in the Companion and Guide (vol. 2, pp. 295-7), which
like Larry's article explores the roots of the poem (both poems with that
title) in the Physiologus, the Voyage of St Brendan, etc.
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