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  • Walter Padgett
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    Message 1 of 4 , Nov 30, 2006
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      WOW !!!!!!!!!

      On 11/30/06, Larry Swain <theswain@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Best of luck tomorrow Walter!! You should consider working up an article
      > or two based on the beast and submit it to Mythlore.
      > >
      > > Hi,
      > >
      > > Thanks, Mr. Bratman.
      > >
      > > Wow! Think about it. "Walter... said such and such..." I never thought I
      > > would say anything of mention on this list.
      > >
      > > I can't wait to send you a copy of my thesis. It's about Myth and
      > Ideology.
      > >
      > > If you've not seen my blog on the thing (which I think you might
      > have...)
      > > It is:
      > >
      > > www.artofthemetaphysicalmind.blogspot.com
      > >
      > > I defend it tomorrow. My committee dropped Charles Nicol as the chair.
      > He
      > > was replaced by Don Jennermann, who was the chair of the Humanities
      > dept.
      > > before he retired. The whole committee is Emeritus professors, except
      > Tom
      > > Derrick, a Harvard PhD who is still full-time faculty in the English
      > dept.
      > > at ISU.
      > >
      > > It's a load off to be done with that monster. I have behaved like an
      > > agitated champagne bottle with its cork just loosed. All this stuff is
      > just
      > > coming out of me now. You are all so much a part of my thinking and its
      > > development in terms of "sensibilities" about Tolkien's Silmarillion.
      > >
      > > "Thanks" is not in the right category. I hope we all can make a mess of
      > my
      > > thesis together. Perhaps I'll see if I can get the list administrator to
      > > post it in the files section of this group.
      > >
      > > We shall see....
      > >
      > > Thanks, David. And thanks to the mysoc list for helping to keep me a
      > little
      > > more grounded in reality these days..
      > >
      > > Sincerely, Walter.
      > >
      > >
      > > On 11/30/06, David Bratman <dbratman@...<dbratman%40earthlink.net>>
      > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > At 08:18 AM 11/30/2006 -0600, Beth Russell wrote:
      > > >
      > > > >And *yet*, And *yet*, I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread that
      > > > >year after year she organizes Tolkien discussion groups at the MLA
      > > > >meetings. Even when not maybe a wise thing to do in those circles.
      > > >
      > > > True enough. I just don't think any of these things cancel each other
      > out.
      > > > Walter began this discussion by dredging up an old criticism I'd made
      > of
      > > > the two books on Tolkien that Chance wrote herself, and I stand by
      > that
      > > > remark, as may be seen in my survey of the reprints (Tolkien Studies
      > 2, p.
      > > > 300). But it's a very mild criticism: see p. 295 of the same essay for
      > my
      > > > comments on Michael White's biography, the worst book on Tolkien ever
      > > > published. (Yes, worse than William Ready, who at least had the
      > > > compensating virtue of being too incoherent to cause much harm.)
      > > >
      > > > Of Prof. Chance's much-discussed audience comment at the Marquette
      > > > symposium, I will just say that it was the only moment during the
      > entire
      > > > conference when I could not follow what the speaker was trying to say.
      > > >
      > > > None of this cancels out, or is cancelled out by, Prof. Chance's
      > strong
      > > > and
      > > > continuing efforts at promoting Tolkien academically, and her tireless
      > > > work
      > > > at both organizing sessions and - amazingly - getting the results
      > > > published. Three edited volumes on Tolkien and medievalism are a
      > gigantic
      > > > contribution, even if they could have been better selected and edited.
      > I
      > > > called the first of these an "outstanding collection" and "an uneven
      > but
      > > > highly ambitious book" (Tolkien Studies 3, p. 241).
      > > >
      > > > David Bratman
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
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      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > The Mythopoeic Society website http://www.mythsoc.org
      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
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