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  • Stolzi
    ... I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in Oklahoma: 1. lived in houses 2. Still lived in teepees 3. heated their teepees in the
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      I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in Oklahoma:

      1. lived in houses
      2. Still lived in teepees
      3. heated their teepees in the winter
      4. were afraid of wild Indians
      5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks
      6. had electricity
      7. drove cars
      8. had paved roads (which we just saw a study that says in cities of over
      500,000, Oklahoma City has the 9th best driving record, folks here having
      wrecks on an average of once every 10.1 years, which makes me wonder who
      the first 8 are)
      9. all sound like Reba McIntyre (country singer)

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    • Jonathan Michael Reiter
      I m from Canada. That Sounds like a lot of foreign folks(read Americans, but not disparagingly so) thoughts about Canada... Jonathan Michael Reiter jmr ...
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        I'm from Canada. That Sounds like a lot of foreign folks(read Americans, but not disparagingly so) thoughts about Canada...
        Jonathan Michael Reiter
        jmr
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        I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in Oklahoma:

        1. lived in houses
        2. Still lived in teepees
        3. heated their teepees in the winter
        4. were afraid of wild Indians
        5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks
        6. had electricity
        7. drove cars
        8. had paved roads (which we just saw a study that says in cities of over
        500,000, Oklahoma City has the 9th best driving record, folks here having
        wrecks on an average of once every 10.1 years, which makes me wonder who
        the first 8 are)
        9. all sound like Reba McIntyre (country singer)

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      • Jay Hershberger
        Having grown up in Oklahoma, this was hilarious to read, especially since it mirrored my own experience as a high school student on a school trip to Washington
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          Having grown up in Oklahoma, this was hilarious to read, especially
          since it mirrored my own experience as a high school student on a school
          trip to Washington DC in 1979. I was asked by a man and woman from
          France visiting the Smithsonian if we still had trouble with Indians in
          Oklahoma.

          A very funny post. Thanks for sharing it. It made my day.

          Cheers,

          Jay Hershberger
          Moorhead, MN

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          I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in Oklahoma:

          1. lived in houses
          2. Still lived in teepees
          3. heated their teepees in the winter
          4. were afraid of wild Indians
          5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks
          6. had electricity
          7. drove cars
          8. had paved roads (which we just saw a study that says in cities of
          over
          500,000, Oklahoma City has the 9th best driving record, folks here
          having
          wrecks on an average of once every 10.1 years, which makes me wonder who
          the first 8 are)
          9. all sound like Reba McIntyre (country singer)

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        • WendellWag@aol.com
          In a message dated 5/25/2006 5:28:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Stolzi@comcast.net writes: I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in
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            In a message dated 5/25/2006 5:28:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
            Stolzi@... writes:

            I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in Oklahoma:

            1. lived in houses
            2. Still lived in teepees
            3. heated their teepees in the winter
            4. were afraid of wild Indians
            5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks
            6. had electricity
            7. drove cars
            8. had paved roads (which we just saw a study that says in cities of over
            500,000, Oklahoma City has the 9th best driving record, folks here having
            wrecks on an average of once every 10.1 years, which makes me wonder who
            the first 8 are)
            9. all sound like Reba McIntyre (country singer)



            So what's the answer?

            Wendell Wagner


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          • Croft, Janet B.
            Janet answers the questions below: In a message dated 5/25/2006 5:28:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Stolzi@comcast.net writes: I have been asked (by folks
            Message 5 of 15 , May 26, 2006
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              Janet answers the questions below:

              In a message dated 5/25/2006 5:28:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
              Stolzi@... writes:

              I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in Oklahoma:

              1. lived in houses

              Yes! Some of them in walking distance of the conference center were designed by Bruce Goff, a Frank Lloyd Wright student. And if you make a side trip up to Bartlesville, you can see the only high-rise FLW designed -- and stay in it, because it's a very nice hotel!


              2. Still lived in teepees

              No -- I don't think we even have any of those touristy teepee motels. But there are some other rather interesting buildings along Route 66...like the blue whale and the round barn.


              3. heated their teepees in the winter

              If we had them, we would -- they are designed for good smoke draw through the roof. You can see some other Indian dwellings in the Sam Noble Oklahoma Natural History Museum across the street from our conference site. I think there's a log dwelling and a summer shelter.


              4. were afraid of wild Indians

              Well, some people are afraid of the economic effect of casinos and Indian smoke shops! And you'll see something interesting here -- license plates issued by the different Indian nations. I've never seen that in any other state. If you play license plate lotto as you drive, you'll rack up the points!


              5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks

              Nope -- we use ours to kill rattlesnakes, but you won't see those on campus. Sometimes you see a skunk, though! Just greet him politely and move on...


              6. had electricity

              Yes, lots. In fact if you'd like to see a very impressive wind farm, take I-40 west to Weatherford.


              7. drove cars

              Yep -- in fact it's not a very walking-friendly town, except for campus. We have that western sense of distance out here -- Dallas is "only" three hours away.


              8. had paved roads (which we just saw a study that says in cities of over
              500,000, Oklahoma City has the 9th best driving record, folks here having
              wrecks on an average of once every 10.1 years, which makes me wonder who
              the first 8 are)

              Mostly -- there are a few gravel roads out where I live, about 20 miles from town. Since there's not a whole lot of rain, gravel roads stand up pretty well.


              9. all sound like Reba McIntyre (country singer)

              No -- on campus you get accents from all over the world! Including Yankees like me.



              So what's the answer?

              Wendell Wagner


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            • Jonathan Michael Reiter
              I take comments like that as a joke, from you folks... Jonathan Michael Reiter jmr ps; you can take that as a compliment... ... From: Jonathan Michael Reiter
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                I take comments like that as a joke, from you folks...
                Jonathan Michael Reiter
                jmr
                ps; you can take that as a compliment...
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                I'm from Canada. That Sounds like a lot of foreign folks(read Americans, but not disparagingly so) thoughts about Canada...
                Jonathan Michael Reiter
                jmr
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                From: Stolzi
                To: Mythopoeic Society
                Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:44 PM
                Subject: [mythsoc] Oklahoma


                A fwd from one of my other lists:

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                I have been asked (by folks from the east coast) if people in Oklahoma:

                1. lived in houses
                2. Still lived in teepees
                3. heated their teepees in the winter
                4. were afraid of wild Indians
                5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks
                6. had electricity
                7. drove cars
                8. had paved roads (which we just saw a study that says in cities of over
                500,000, Oklahoma City has the 9th best driving record, folks here having
                wrecks on an average of once every 10.1 years, which makes me wonder who
                the first 8 are)
                9. all sound like Reba McIntyre (country singer)

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              • Jay Hershberger
                JC: Yes! Some of them in walking distance of the conference center were designed by Bruce Goff, a Frank Lloyd Wright student. And if you make a side trip up
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                  JC: Yes! Some of them in walking distance of the conference center were
                  designed by Bruce Goff, a Frank Lloyd Wright student. And if you make a
                  side trip up to Bartlesville, you can see the only high-rise FLW designed --
                  and stay in it, because it's a very nice hotel!

                  I grew up in Bartlesville in the 70s when that odd looking structure was the
                  Price Pipeline Co. The ophthalmologist I saw regularly as a kid also
                  practiced in the Price Tower as it was called back in the good ol' days.
                  There is not a single horizontal right angle in that entire building. Quite
                  a unique structure.

                  Cheers,

                  Jay Hershberger
                  Moorhead, MN


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                • David Bratman
                  ... The wild mosquito is the animal we re worried about. Will it be seen (or more accurately felt) on campus much? ... And any wind farm fans should come to
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                    At 08:13 AM 5/26/2006 -0500, Croft, Janet B. wrote:
                    >5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks
                    >
                    >Nope -- we use ours to kill rattlesnakes, but you won't see those on campus.
                    > Sometimes you see a skunk, though! Just greet him politely and move on...

                    The wild mosquito is the animal we're worried about. Will it be seen (or
                    more accurately felt) on campus much?

                    >6. had electricity
                    >
                    >Yes, lots. In fact if you'd like to see a very impressive wind farm, take
                    >I-40 west to Weatherford.

                    And any wind farm fans should come to Berkeley next year, too: there's a
                    striking wind farm on the hills of the Altamont Pass east of Berkeley.

                    DB
                  • Stolzi
                    ... From: Croft, Janet B. ... I saw lots in the literature and website about wonderful museums in easy reach. But I m really, really
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                      From: "Croft, Janet B." <jbcroft@...>

                      >
                      > If we had them, we would -- they are designed for good smoke draw through
                      > the roof. You can see some other Indian dwellings in the Sam Noble
                      > Oklahoma Natural History Museum across the street from our conference
                      > site. I think there's a log dwelling and a summer shelter.
                      >

                      I saw lots in the literature and website about wonderful museums in easy
                      reach. But I'm really, really disappointed to see that the Fred Jones
                      Museum AND the Sam Noble will be closed Monday. Because Grace and I have
                      quite a late departure time.

                      What would you recommend for Monday after the Con is over?

                      Diamond Proudbrook
                    • Croft, Janet B.
                      Well, the wild mosquito population will depend on how wet it s been. But they do water the lawns pretty enthusiastically here on campus. Those planning on
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                        Well, the wild mosquito population will depend on how wet it's been.
                        But they do water the lawns pretty enthusiastically here on campus.
                        Those planning on outdoor Golfimbul might want to bring some Deep Woods
                        Off!


                        Janet

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                        Of David Bratman
                        Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:20 AM
                        To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: [mythsoc] Oklahoma

                        At 08:13 AM 5/26/2006 -0500, Croft, Janet B. wrote:
                        >5. Kept rifles to protect them from wild Indian attacks
                        >
                        >Nope -- we use ours to kill rattlesnakes, but you won't see those on
                        campus.
                        > Sometimes you see a skunk, though! Just greet him politely and move
                        on...

                        The wild mosquito is the animal we're worried about. Will it be seen
                        (or more accurately felt) on campus much?

                        >6. had electricity
                        >
                        >Yes, lots. In fact if you'd like to see a very impressive wind farm,
                        >take I-40 west to Weatherford.

                        And any wind farm fans should come to Berkeley next year, too: there's a
                        striking wind farm on the hills of the Altamont Pass east of Berkeley.

                        DB



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                      • Croft, Janet B.
                        What would you recommend for Monday after the Con is over? Diamond Proudbrook If it s not too hot, a walking tour of the campus. I will be providing copies of
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                          What would you recommend for Monday after the Con is over?

                          Diamond Proudbrook

                          If it's not too hot, a walking tour of the campus. I will be providing
                          copies of our campus walking guide, which has tours for architecture,
                          gardens, and sculpture. http://www.visit.ou.edu/HTML/tours.htm. Watch
                          for our state bird, which looks like an escaped exotic:
                          http://www.pldi.net/~murrows/scissortail.html,
                          http://www.birdsofoklahoma.net/State%20bird.htm

                          Also, all the libraries will be open Monday. Two of our libraries will
                          have special exhibits related to our conference theme -- the Western
                          History collection in Monnet Hall will have Native American literature
                          http://libraries.ou.edu/info/index.asp?id=22, and the History of Science
                          collection in Bizzell will have old maps
                          http://libraries.ou.edu/info/index.asp?id=20. Both are well worth
                          seeing even if you don't care about the exhibits -- if you ask really
                          nicely, the curators in History of Science can show you some really
                          amazing things, maybe even the Gallileo with a dedication in his own
                          hand:
                          http://hsci.cas.ou.edu/exhibits/exhibit.php?exbgrp=1&exbid=11&exbpg=10.
                          And as long as you are in Bizzell, you should see our Great Reading
                          Room, the most beautiful room on campus (fourth picture down on the
                          campus tour link in the first paragraph). If you find old libraries
                          interesting, our oldest stacks are state-of-the-art -- for 1928! If I'm
                          not collapsed in a quivering heap somewhere, I'd be happy to give a
                          tour!

                          Another special library on campus is quite a showplace -- the Youngblood
                          Energy Library (or the Geology Library, if you get a blank look when
                          asking for directions) has some beautiful fossil and mineral samples,
                          and is surrounded by a gallery displaying other samples and lots of
                          information about local items like rose rocks:
                          http://libraries.ou.edu/info/index.asp?id=19 (and see rose rocks on this
                          page: http://www.ok.gov/osfdocs/stinfo.html. They usually have some for
                          sale in the SNOMNH gift shop, if you can get over there when they are
                          open). It's pretty far for a walk -- best if you're driving. Greek
                          House, the best place for gyros in town, is just across the street,
                          hidden behind another building, but they may close for intersession --
                          I'll try to find out for you
                          http://dinesite.com/info/rstrnt-193236/??&t=0. Nielson Hall, home to
                          the Physics department, usually has interesting displays of old slide
                          rules and optics tricks in their lobbies
                          http://libraries.ou.edu/info/index.asp?id=21.

                          You can also get a tour of the new National Weather Center starting in
                          July: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/faq/tours.shtml, but you have to register
                          in advance. It's not open yet, so I can't tell you much about it. But
                          if you are a weather geek, Oklahoma is the place to be.

                          And for anyone else staying Monday who has a relative thinking about
                          college in the not-too-distant future, this might be a good time to pay
                          an informal visit to a department he or she might be interested in (my
                          obligatory recruitment speech...)http://www.ou.edu/web/academics/


                          If you want to get off campus, there's shopping and antiquing on Campus
                          Corner http://www.oucampuscorner.com/ and along Main Street, or a drive
                          up to some of the attractions in Oklahoma City. Campus Corner has the
                          best pizza (Hideaway http://www.hideawaypizza.com/) and what many
                          consider the best Mexican food (Pepe Delgado's
                          http://www.holamundo.com/pepedelgados/information1.html) in Norman.

                          For a college town, we don't rally have a lot in the way of independent
                          or used bookstores, but I'll try to pull together a list for you.

                          Hope this is enough to keep you busy!




                          Janet Brennan Croft
                          Head of Access Services
                          University of Oklahoma Libraries
                          Bizzell 104NW
                          Norman OK 73019
                          405-325-1918
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                        • Croft, Janet B.
                          I grew up in Bartlesville in the 70s when that odd looking structure was the Price Pipeline Co. The ophthalmologist I saw regularly as a kid also practiced in
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                            I grew up in Bartlesville in the 70s when that odd looking structure was
                            the Price Pipeline Co. The ophthalmologist I saw regularly as a kid
                            also practiced in the Price Tower as it was called back in the good ol'
                            days.
                            There is not a single horizontal right angle in that entire building.
                            Quite a unique structure.

                            Cheers,

                            Jay Hershberger
                            Moorhead, MN


                            Cool! We went there for our 20th anniversary. They have a very nice
                            restaurant on the top floors. http://www.pricetower.org/

                            Janet
                          • Berni Phillips
                            Janet, what s the situation in restaurants regarding smoking? Are there separate non-smoking areas in Oklahoma? Berni
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                              Janet, what's the situation in restaurants regarding smoking? Are there separate non-smoking areas in Oklahoma?

                              Berni
                            • Oberhelman, D
                              Given that it s Memorial Day and Janet might be smart enough not to be in her work email at this hour ;), I ll offer what I know. The current law which is
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                                Given that it's Memorial Day and Janet might be smart enough not to be in her work email at this hour ;), I'll offer what I know. The current law which is that smoking sections in restaurants must be closed off and have separate ventilation systems or else the establishment must be non-smoking. Most have gone completely non-smoking as a result. David

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                                Janet, what's the situation in restaurants regarding smoking? Are there separate non-smoking areas in Oklahoma?

                                Berni


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                              • Croft, Janet B.
                                Well, I was smart enough not to be checking my email at 6:14 am -- but I m doing it now, before going out to pick blackberries. I ve only encountered one
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                                  Well, I was smart enough not to be checking my email at 6:14 am -- but I'm doing it now, before going out to pick blackberries. I've only encountered one restaurant in Norman where I actually noticed and could smell the smoking section -- Jonny Carino's, which is a country Italian chain restaurant over near I-35. Almost every other place is smoke-free.

                                  Janet

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                                  From: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Oberhelman, D
                                  Sent: Mon 5/29/2006 6:14 AM
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                                  Given that it's Memorial Day and Janet might be smart enough not to be in her work email at this hour ;), I'll offer what I know. The current law which is that smoking sections in restaurants must be closed off and have separate ventilation systems or else the establishment must be non-smoking. Most have gone completely non-smoking as a result. David

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                                  Sent: Sun 5/28/2006 5:32 PM
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                                  Subject: RE: [mythsoc] Oklahoma


                                  Janet, what's the situation in restaurants regarding smoking? Are there separate non-smoking areas in Oklahoma?

                                  Berni


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