Re: [mythsoc] Re: Tolkien and Tristan
- Thank you very much, Fernando, for this abstract. But it is surprising to see that Pedro chose Aragorn & Arwen to compare them to Tristran and Iseut ; Turin's story (Finduilas, Nienor) and above all Beren & Luthien are much more interesting.
Because "contrafactum" implies "source", and you cannot say that Tristran and Iseut's story is a source for Aragorn-Luthien ; their story is closer to Erec-Enide's, Cliges' or Yvain's stories (I wrote a dissertation about the latter) ; and the religious values are already very strong in Iseut's story. I think that Aragorn's story is to be mentioned, but as a perspective, not a direct reference.
Anyway, I'll finish my paper in the coming week, and send an abstract to you.
In Birmingham, Sunday afternoon there was a paper by Pedro
titled "The Catholic Adaptation of Myths" lectured by Denis Bridoux
(in former's absence). Final title was slightly different alluding
to a technique 'contrafactura' in stead to a simple 'adaptation'.
The first half discussed the Catholic influence in Tolkien's work,
and contrafactura technique (showing how it was used before over
pagan myths by Christendom). Then, in the second half, it was
followed by a comparison of Tristram and Iseult and Aragorn and
Arwen's stories. The former myth was called a story of an
unfortunate, reciprocal love, and the latter of blessed, reciprocal
love; the latter a turnaround of the former describing the elements
required for this through their story (supported in commentaries
drawn from The Letters, especially the one about matrimony). In
some way opposing Denis de Rougemont's idea (Amor y occidente, Love
and occident?) about love-passion that I heard from Pedro before.
By this comparison, as example, supported on other premises is shown
the proposal that Tolkien used 'contrafactura' (embedded with
Catholic values) as a technique of creation and opinion... or at
least that is what I understood. The last part was about the
validity of myth to communicate the truth, and the validity to change
myth with catholic elements (but this all fall out of my range).
I hope this helps.
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