- View SourceCai,
*I'm* not the one who needs convincing-- maybe some of your fellow
*Christians*... and, you *know who I am talking about. It is my
profound opinion that it is only Christians who actually practice
Christianity (such as yourself) who *can* confront the hateful
behavior of those who call themselves "Christian" but don't seem to
practice any religion except intolerance. (One could say that of other
religions as well, including atheism -- so don't let *me* get started,
Now, who was it that said that religion isn't subversive? Golly, Let
me talk to you about Mathilda Joselyn Gage, Matthew Fox, Starhawk, Joy
Wolfwommon, Starr King.... In fact, where have you *Been* the last
I find Lewis and Tolkien to have subversive elements, and interesting
ones. Just because neither author beats you over the head with it
doesn't mean it's not *there*.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Cai Cherie <eternityfindsitself@y...>
>springing up when and where it did -- was that it was a very specific
> Boy, am I going...
> It could even be argued that the secular reason for Christianity's
Jewish response to the atrocity of the first great totalitarian
empire. And that this specific response touched a need in people all
over the empire so that even in the face of persecution, Christianity
grew till the empire had to resort to co-opting it.
>co-opted it, are matters for debate. But for me, Christianity is at
> To what extent the empire suceeded, or that Christianity then
its best when it transforms empire.
> And aren't alot of the Inklings' writings about just that?
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