RE: [mythsoc] Kreeft
- I haven't seen any discussion of the Rutledge here yet, but I thought it
was quite good -- though perhaps those with more knowledge about
Christianity might notice problems I didn't.
Which raises the question: of the many books that have come out in the
last few years on Tolkien and religion, are there any that folks here
would recommend? Dickerson and Rutledge sound like the cream of the crop
from what I've heard so far, but I haven't read either yet.
- On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:22 PM, John D Rateliff wrote:
> Never mind that twice before Kreeft has compared Frodo not toBut surely the fact that Frodo can be compared to Mary in some
> Christ but to Mary, calling his acceptance of the Ring at the
> Council of Elrond his "Marian moment".
respects, doesn't preclude his being compared to Christ in other
respects -- or vice versa?
> that "God and his angels" don't sing the world into existence inBut he does: Ilúvatar "propound[s] to them themes of music" and
> both books (Illuvatar lets the Ainur subcreate Middle-earth but
> doesn't sing himself;
"declare[s] to them a mighty theme", which they "show forth their
powers in adorning" (S:15). The sub-creation of the Ainur was just
that: _sub-_creation, all done under Eru, and by Eru _through_ them,
all within the theme that _he_ devised: "each of you shall find
contained herein, _amid the design that I set before you_, all those
things which _it may seem_ that he himself devised or
added" (emphasis added).