Re: Re: [mythsoc] Fan fiction
> First: Moderator(s), please note this deliberate (and utterly false)Would this qualify as a submission to Chilling-Effect?
> personal attack.
> Second: Cite a single instance, Graeme, where I or any of myHmmm, manipulated from
> colleagues have said ANYTHING against ANYONE "using Neo-Quenya in a
> derivative work"?
"noise from the Elfconners (or a single Elfconner) will be deafening :-)"
"said ANYTHING against ANYONE "using Neo-Quenya in a derivative work"?"
I think this would qualify as that noise that was mentioned?
> Of course, you can't.Why should I cite any other example of "noise" other than this one?
> (Although, obviously, if it is in fact a "derivative work" that NQ isSo did I say "use NQ in an otherwise non-derivative work" or not, I'm trying to work out what you are trying to manipulate my text into being?
> being used in, that is indeed a copyright matter. But I'm guessing
> that what you actually mean to say is, "use NQ in an otherwise non-
> derivative work".)
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, David Bratman <dbratman@e...> wrote:
> At 01:52 AM 7/20/2005 +0000, Lezlie wrote:because they're major sources in Old Norse, a
> language he taught, and because he used them as sources (they'rewhere the
> dwarf-names came from).Of course, I had momentarily forgotten... ! :)
> >I also disagree that "all fiction is fan fiction". There is a deeper,Ahhh... Although those are precisly the qualities we seek in reading
> >more complex conversation going in between authors, readers and later
> >generation writers than what seems to be the norm in "fan-fic."
> Totally apart from questions of quality and subtlety,
and in crafting our fiction. Whether a piece has literary quality or
not, BTW, was beside my point.
there is also a
> difference between crafting a work in response to an earlier workand being
> inspired by it, and actually borrowing its concrete setting orretelling it
> openly. This is a difference in kind, not necessarily a difference inAlso beside my point. What I was talking about is something different--
> literary value.
BTW: Have you read Stallybrass & White on this subject? Very
interesting stuff and a killer title: "The Politics and Poetics of
Transgression" - Lezlie