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, JTHeyman@j... wrote:
> "Elizabeth Apgar Triano" <lizziewriter@e...> writes:
> > Daniel Keyes Moran writes some neat sf. In one of his books,
> > _The Last Dancer_, I believe, there is a very intense sex scene
> > around the middle somewhere. It may be the only sex scene,
> > certainly it is the only scene of its kind. It would have, IMO,
> > ruined the book if that had been the flavor throughout.
> I'm a fan of Moran's work and have most of his books. Actually, while I
> agree that the book would've been ruined if it had all been like that
> scene, that scene itself seemed to be out of place to me. Or, perhaps
> more accurately, the explicitness of that scene seemed out of place. I
> can see the emotional content of Denise's night with Lan, and I
> the consequences or that night played out later just before Lan
> confronted Sedon, but could Moran have gotten the same impact
> explicitness? I think so. Then again, his stories have been published
> and I write fan fic, so maybe I'm wrong.
> The question of explicit sex in F&SF, though, seems to be more a matter
> of "how much" rather than "if" these days. Kim Stanley Robinson,
> about his Mars novels at a convention some years back, said it
> matter-of-factly: people colonize a new world, terraform it, set up
> governments and, along the way, some of them have sex. These days,
> unless you let someone else read and review books for you, ya pays yer
> money and ya takes yer chances.
> Or maybe that scene in _The Last Dancer_ was a result of pressure to
> include such a scene because so many other books were beginning to
> include them ... then again, maybe not. After all, his self-published
> _Terminal Freedom_ (cowritten with his sister) had no such explicit
> in it. Which raises an interesting question to which I don't have an
> answer: how much influence do the corporate publishers have over the
> content of various authors' books? Can they go to a mid-list (or
> A-list) author and say, "It's good, but it needs more sex"? And, if so,
> what does that mean for the mythopoeia of the author's world? Can the
> publisher alter it to be more in line with whatever ideas they have
> what the readers want? I don't know, but I do wonder sometimes.
> ~ JTHeyman
I think this position that sex has to be included because people do it
is a bit exaggerated. Is it much different than the old 'adventurers
never go to the bathroom argument'? If the characters involved are in
a romance, then yes, it is probably necessary. If there's no romance,
then it isn't.