Re: [mythsoc] Lothlorien passage question
- Ted, as Haldir's statement seems to mean that the current power is
sevenfold what it was when Sauron lived there, I'd presume it's an
indication of how much stronger Sauron (and his minions) are now than they
were 75 years before, when the enemy were driven out of Dol Guldur.
- David Bratman
- Thanks, David. I told my students that I figured some of the Nazgul had
taken up residence there--I was just stymied by the "sevenfold" modifier.
I'll pass this information along.
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 09:02:50 -0800
From: David Bratman <dbratman@...>
Subject: Re: Lothlorien passage question
At 04:54 PM 2/14/2004 -0800, Ted Sherman wrote:
>A student of mine asked a question yesterday about a passage that I'venever
>thought about before. Haldir is pointing out to the Fellowship, sansGandalf
>of course, where Dol Guldur is in Southern Mirkwood. He says: "We fear thatedition
>now it is inhabited again, and with power sevenfold" (343, one-volme
>w/ugly movie cover). Who would be inhabiting it? The Lord of the Nazgul,inhabited,
>Captain of the Nine? He's in Minas Morgul isn't he? And why is it
>they fear, with power sevenfold--does that sevenfold mean seven times worseAccording to Appendix B, ten years after being driven from Dol Guldur,
>than the previous power, Sauron?
Sauron declared himself openly in Mordor, and sent 3 Nazgul to reoccupy Dol
Guldur. Obviously they weren't personally still there at the time Haldir
speaks, but they had obviously been busy, because the Appendix mentions
major battles in the War of the Ring between the forces of Dol Guldur, on
the one side, and the Elves of Lorien and Mirkwood on the other. As the
hobbits learn when they have to come home and scour the Shire, the events
they've been involved in aren't the whole show, and here's yet more of it.
"Three times Lorien had been assailed from Dol Guldur, but besides the
valour of the elven people of that land, the power that dwelt there was too
great for any to overcome, unless Sauron had come there himself. Though
grievous harm was done to the fair woods on the borders, the assaults were
driven back; and when the Shadow passed, Celeborn came forth and led the
host of Lórien over Anduin in many boats. They took Dol Guldur, and
Galadriel threw down its walls and laid bare its pits, and the forest was
- David Bratman