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  • Elizabeth R. Milner
    Both Garth and Shippey say that William Morris was a powerful influence. -Liz ... would have ... say ... small ... dominate the economy ... his ideas of ... to
    Message 1 of 42 , Feb 1, 2004
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      Both Garth and Shippey say that William Morris was a powerful
      influence.

      -Liz

      --- In mythsoc@yahoogroups.com, Stolzi@a... wrote:
      > In a message dated 1/31/2004 5:52:10 PM Central Standard Time,
      > dbratman@e... writes:
      >
      > >At 04:40 PM 1/28/2004 -0500, Stolzi wrote:
      > >>Tolkien grew up in an era and a milieu (the RC Church) where he
      would have
      > >>been exposed to G.K. Chesterton and his "Distributist" political
      > philosophy.
      >
      > >Tolkien would have been exposed to a lot of things. That doesn't
      say
      > anything about what
      > >he thought of them, or if he thought of them.
      >
      >
      > Well, yes, David, but my point is that Distributism approved of the
      small
      > independent holdings, and personal crafts, which apparently
      dominate the economy
      > of the Shire, and which somebody had linked to William Morris and
      his ideas of
      > Socialism.
      >
      > Though the Tooks and Brandybucks and Bilbo and a few others appear
      to operate
      > on a grander scale.
      >
      >
      >
      > Diamond Proudbrook
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    • dianejoy@earthlink.net
      I *hated* the film *First Knight*: it practically blessed Lance and Gwen s affair, even from Arthur s deathbed. Gwen will eternally be a blonde for me; a
      Message 42 of 42 , Feb 5, 2004
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        I *hated* the film *First Knight*: it practically blessed Lance and Gwen's
        affair, even from Arthur's deathbed. Gwen will eternally be a blonde for
        me; a brunette Gwen is dubious to me, though it's likely she could be one
        if she's Celtic (depends on your favorite sources); lots of dark haired
        folk. Why does Connery appear in so many dreadful films? O;) ---djb

        Original Message:
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        From: David Bratman dbratman@...
        Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:54:28 -0800
        To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Awards, deserved and undeserved


        At 01:18 AM 2/1/2004 -0500, Grace wrote:
        >In a message dated 1/31/2004 5:52:43 PM Central Standard Time,
        >dbratman@... writes:
        >The Tolkien Ensemble's music is very evocative of the book: so much so, in
        >fact, that it would be badly suited for Jackson's films, which is evocative
        >of something else altogether.
        >True, true. But at least it would have given me something to enjoy while I
        >was hideously bored for three precious hours that were wasted, never to be
        >recovered. :-)

        Why not just wear a headset to the theatre and get a more pleasant
        soundtrack for the whole thing, not just the music? It's not like very
        much in the plot would be a surprise, and that which was a surprise you'd
        be better off not knowing.

        Only one film I've ever watched all the way through was so bad I felt like
        demanding a refund, not of my money, but of the time it sucked out of my
        life. This was "First Knight", an Arthurian fluff utterly unredeemed by
        the presence of Sean Connery, John Gielgud, and even Alexis Denisof.

        - David Bratman


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