discuss, or argue?
- Michael Martinez wrote:
>Either you persuade the other person to your-------
>point of view or you don't.
How about **discuss** a subject of interest, not in a contest to win or lose,
to **persuade**; but to exchange considered views, maybe learn something,
maybe point out something of interest to others, whose views may change, or may
instead evolve, becoming more nuanced, or elaborated.
Or maybe not.
Perhaps views, understandings, may even evolve in altogether new direction.
Or, become firmer in their current stance.
Sure there is also a time to say-hey, you are wrong, buddy, it ain't so,
But this need not be done with rancor, in this forum especially.
I meant none towards you, if i was making it seem as if i felt so,
I offer my regrets.
>The world isn't going to stop revolving just because I didn't cave in------
>to your arguments.
>Sensible and well-reasoned arguments don't take things to a personallevel the way you have.
How was I initially personal about you, by which i assume you mean personal
in an offensive way, other than eventually protesting, with some heat in the
end, yes, that i felt mistreated, disrespected by your characterizations of the
people and arguments with which you debated?
As for the subject of personalizing the discussion, I ask that we continue
that off list, ** if** you wish.
The subject of discussion vs. debate vs. argument, however, is something I
think is worth continuing here, **if** you or any others have a response to
If not, I thank you for your time and thought on these matters, and I hope we
can **continue** be civil, if not warm, in any future exchanges of views here
on the list.