Re: Oh Peter, Peter, Peter Beagle...
- Stolzi@... wrote:
> From: Stolzi@...Interesting. I didn't have any trouble at all with the beginning being slow.
> In a message dated 1/3/00 11:16:14 AM Central Standard Time,
> mwinslow@... writes:
> > Beagle creates her as a real character before
> > 'sidetracking' (as it were) with the actual storyline.
> Imnsho, he didn't need to spend that much time on it. And the little
> rambling verbal asides meant to establish Jenny's character and her
> "realness" were so over-frequent that I was almost at the point of yelling at
> the book, "Shut UP, girl!" :)
> An interesting exercise wd be to xerox those first chapters and go at them
> with a blue-pencil, see how much really NEEDS to be there to do the
ONe of the things I enjoy most about fiction is getting to know people I'd
otherwise never encounter. And that's what we were doing with the long
beginning. I guess I just liked hanging ou? with those people and wasn't
waiting imaptiently for the 'fantasy' to start.
> And again I say -- "How did Evan meet Sally in the first place?"Well, gee, maybe he just liked hanging out with musicians. I do it a lot and I
was (when I worked) a librarian. I have a vague memory that he was in the US on
business and they met somehow through the musical connection.
> Had I been editing it, too, Sally would have been "Mom." There's too manyI didn't have this problem with TAMSIN but I know what you mean. The book I
> names and roles to keep straight, what with Jenny's NYC friends, and her UK
> friend we've not even =met= yet, "Meena," whom she keeps referring to...
> Even though the kind of girl Jenny is might well call her mother "Sally,"
> "Mom" would have placed her and put her in her role with much less effort for
> the reader.
> In Susan Cooper's THE BOGGART, I had the same trouble with daughter Emily and
> mother Maggie. ("Which one is it this time!?!?") That one's told in the
> third person, though. If Maggie had been referred to as "Mrs..." more often,
> it would have helped. I think it's all right to call such a character
> "Mother" or "Mrs" when the book is so definitely a juvenile, and Maggie is so
> definitely married. But I suppose authors are scared of running into the
> whole Mrs/Ms problem.
most recently had that happen with was Pat Murphy's THERE AND BACK AGAIN. I
couldn't keep the sibs straight, but then, I couldn't keep the dwarves straight
in THE HOBBIT either. Still have trouble after all the re-readings in the past
- Stolzi@... wrote:
>Yes, it took too long to get to the farm. I was rather dismayed at the
> From: Stolzi@...
> In a message dated 1/2/00 7:01:06 PM Central Standard Time,
> unicorn@... writes:
> > The only thing I recall disappointed by in TAMSIN was that it had
> > to end.
> But didn't you find that it took a long time starting? This was one of the
> few criticisms that I - and many reader-reviewers on amazon.com - had. Too
> much background, too much rambling in the (startlingly accurate) voice of the
> teen girl narrator. Too long before they get to the farm and the
> strangenesses begin to appear.
> Mary S
actions of the narrator while she was in New York. With her drug use
and disdain for authority, she was headed in the wrong direction. I
shudder to think what might have become of her if her mother hadn't
taken her to Britain. I certainly was uninterested in the character in
those early chapters.
- In a message dated 1/3/00 8:59:05 PM Central Standard Time,
> With her drug useWhere, as best I recall, she never even tried to get a connection or to
> and disdain for authority, she was headed in the wrong direction. I
> shudder to think what might have become of her if her mother hadn't
> taken her to Britain.
light up. Does this mean that tougher schoolwork, hard field work, or being
entertained by ghosts (I'm not sure which) removes the desire for weed? :)
- Stolzi@... wrote:
> From: Stolzi@...I didn't find her occasional marijuana use, or disdain for authority,
> In a message dated 1/3/00 8:59:05 PM Central Standard Time,
> bernip@... writes:
> > With her drug use
> > and disdain for authority, she was headed in the wrong direction. I
> > shudder to think what might have become of her if her mother hadn't
> > taken her to Britain.
> Where, as best I recall, she never even tried to get a connection or to
> light up. Does this mean that tougher schoolwork, hard field work, or being
> entertained by ghosts (I'm not sure which) removes the desire for weed? :)
particularly disturbing or even noteworthy for a teen-ager living in NYC in the
late 90's. I do sort of wonder what explains the total lack of interest in a
little pot once she gets to England. Perhaps a different social milieu and all