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  • trudygshaw
    Jun 3, 2002
      What we can't do (literally--can't) is get inside another person's being and judge his or her motivation, state of mind, and all the other things that go into the choice of an action, good or bad. We can do that only for ourselves, and even there (IMHO) only to a limited degree. One of the many reasons I'm glad I'm not God--I gratefully leave the task to her.

      Free will gives us the responsibility to discern between good and evil (or choose from more than one good) in our own decisions, including how we decide to respond to another's evil actions.


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Carl F. Hostetter
      To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:05 AM
      Subject: Re: [mythsoc] LOTR review

      That is certainly not what "judge not ..." means. As moral creatures with
      conscience and Free will, we are not only allowed but required to discern
      the difference between good and evil. (I'm speaking both of the races of
      Middle-earth and our own world.) What we cannot do is determine another's
      fate. That is left to God/Eru. Osama bin Laden is evil. Sauron was evil. Is
      either iredeemable to God/Eru? _That_ is not for us to decide.

      | Carl F. Hostetter Aelfwine@... http://www.elvish.org |
      | |
      | ho bios brachys, he de techne makre. |
      | Ars longa, vita brevis. |
      | The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. |
      | "I wish life was not so short," he thought. "Languages take |
      | such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about." |


      On 6/3/02 7:53 AM, "Pauline J. Alama" <PJAlama@...> wrote:

      > I'm with Ms. Howlett. Judge not lest ye be judged, or as Gandalf says, even
      > the very wise do not know all ends.
      > pauline
      > Pauline J. Alama
      > (Bantam Spectra, July 2002)
      > --- On Sun 06/02, Christine Howlett wrote:
      > From: Christine Howlett [mailto: chowlett@...]
      > To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Sun 06/02
      > Subject: Re: [mythsoc] LOTR review
      >> Sorry, I'm born American, but I have real problems selecting people to
      >> personify evil. It seems like there are too durn many people doing that
      >> to
      >> justify their prejudices and then their bloodshed. I am willing to say
      >> that
      >> Osama's acts are morally indefensible on any grounds, even if the US had
      >> actually done all the evil that he accuses us of. Himself? He's one
      >> sick
      >> puppy. Evil? That's up to God.
      >> Score one for ambivalence.
      >> Christine

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