21800Re: [mythsoc] Re: A new novel about Tolkien
- Jan 13, 2011On 1/13/2011 7:29 PM, davise@... wrote:
> --- In email@example.com, "Darrell A. Martin"<darrellm@...>
>> De gustibus non est disputandum.
> On the contrary, one of the reasons I subscribe to a literary chat
> group is disputare about gustibus.
OK, then you are wrong [big grin].
>> I think Ivanhoe is a good read, but it bothers me. My junior highYes, and I don't like historical fiction
>> English teacher did not mention that the book was not history. I
>> thought Sir Wilfred of Ivanhoe was a real person for years. That is
>> not Scott's fault, but I still resented finding out much later that
>> my views on 12th Century England were based on literary invention.
> But that would apply to any kind of historical fiction whether or not
> it contains historical persons.
in general, even about periods in which
I have a strong interest. But when "real
people" show up, it makes it worse -- at
least I think so.
> After all, your misconceptions aboutPerhaps. But the Black Knight *is*
> 12th c. England would have been much the same even if the Black
> Knight had not turned out to be King Richard and even if you had
> realized that Sir Wilfred was a fictional character.
King Richard, and Prince John *is*
Prince John, and I noticed that. The
misconceptions may very well have
occurred anyway, I agree. But maybe
Ivanhoe is probably not the best book
to use as an example. It is one that
you tossed in my direction, and it
struck a chord in me (dissonant).
> I'll agree that it is very annoying if a real person or event whomI know my Mom agrees with you. She
> you care about is portrayed inaccurately in a work of fiction. (And
> not just real people, as we have certainly discussed on this list!)
> But, for myself, though that happens occasionally, it doesn't happen
> very often. It is much more common that I have encountered historical
> periods, or events, or people, for the first time through historical
> fiction (or at least for the first time in any depth); and overall
> the knowledge I have gained is much greater than the misconceptions
> -- Ernie
likes stuff about Colonial New
England especially (our ancestors
landed, or were unceremoniously
dumped, there beginning in the
1630s). My mileage varies a LOT
from hers, and yours.
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