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21667Re: [mythsoc] Are Hobbits white?

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  • Darrell A. Martin
    Dec 9, 2010
      On 12/8/2010 11:57 AM, David Bratman wrote *IN PART*:
      > [in response to what] Darrell A. Martin wrote *IN PART*:


      Inserted and indented.

      >> Tolkien
      >> describes his Hobbits as if they were certain kinds of English folk.
      >> That *ought* to end the discussion, in my opinion.
      > Yet he says some hobbits were "browner". And I asked, what did he mean by
      > that?

      That they were somewhat darker of
      skin than other Hobbits. After
      that it gets fuzzy [wry grin].

      >> Some alteration is unavoidable because of
      >> the differences between the media,
      > So we are constantly told, but aside from condensation, I have yet to see
      > any coherent argument explaining why particular alterations are necessary,
      > nor have I seen any declarations of what is not possible in movies that some
      > movie-maker hasn't violated with impunity.

      "Apart from condensation" is
      a bit like, "Apart from that
      awkward moment with Mr. Booth
      and Mr. Lincoln, the evening at
      Ford's Theater went well." The
      effects of condensation flow
      through every cinematic work.
      Well, maybe not "The Grinch
      Who Stole Christmas" (the
      real *animated* version) but
      the exception proves the rule.

      The primary alteration, though,
      is that a book creates sense
      input through the reader's
      imagination; a movie shows the
      same thing, or pipes it through
      speakers -- the "Grinch", in
      the case of sound, NOT being
      an exception.

      Of course, saying what is not
      possible in movies, these
      days, is pointless. If money
      can be made from it, not only
      *can* it be done, it most
      likely *has* been done. That
      reminds me ... OK, rewatched
      Gollum's acceptance speech
      for MTV's 2003 "Best Virtual
      Performance" award. QED.

      >> My biggest disappointment with "Game of Thrones" ...
      >> is that it can be accused, in my opinion, of the failure
      >> which Le Guin described in her essay, "From Elfland to Poughkeepsie."
      >> That is, that it is too much like a modern international political
      >> thriller, just with swords and a dash of supernaturalism thrown in, for
      >> my taste.
      > Yet the amoral thriller aspect seems to be just what the book's fans like,
      > and the actors and movie-makers in the promo film actually praise the story
      > for having characters who are completely unpredictable. The appeal of this
      > eludes me.

      But for those who like that sort
      of thing, this may be just the
      sort of thing they will like....

      I find the amoral aspect of
      GoT means I am forced to, say,
      "suspend dislike"; but there is
      enough creativity to keep me
      interested. It is not, however,
      a book that I will reread at
      least once a year for the rest
      of my life, like LoTR.

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