19672Re: [mythsoc] . . . not on topic
- Apr 11, 2008On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:21 AM, David Emerson wrote:
>> ... de Camp asked Tolkien why, if it was based on Europe manyYes indeed; it's clearly both some form of mastodon or mammoth AND
>> thousands of years ago, his Middle-earth lacked the megafauna of
>> that era.
> Does the oliphaunt fall under the category of "megafauna"?
the beastiary elephant at one and the same time. But it's clearly
long since vanished from the North-West, remembered only from
traveller's tales like Sam's rhyme.
It's worth pointing out, though, that de Camp seems to forget
about the wolves, which can get pretty big (especially in Middle-
earth!). And of course if we include The Hobbit we get huge bears as
well. But most of the lands the Fellowship crosses seem to lack
anything bigger than a fox, which is entirely appropriate to England
in the last century or so but not like the older world; I assume from
all the bear-baiting that there were still wild bears in England in
Shakespeare's time, and wolves lasted until sometime in the medieval
era (both are certainly well-represented in the continental folk-
tales of the Grimms and Perrault).
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