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19344Re: [mythsoc] Mystical Realms . . .

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  • John D Rateliff
    Jan 10, 2008
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      Hi Carl
      Afraid I'll have to wait to respond until I have a chance to find and
      read CSL's piece, or else we'll drift entirely off-topic.

      On Jan 10, 2008, at 5:52 AM, Carl F. Hostetter wrote:
      > I didn't say that governments "arose" for this purpose (though many
      > did, at least in part). I said this _is_ (pretty much) the purpose of
      > government: present tense, and in the specific context of this
      > discussion concerning CSL and Aquinas. It has certainly been the
      > primary purpose of esp. democratic governments. Tolkien also saw it as
      > a primary purpose of (legitimate) monarchies.

      > Is that all Jesus was? Is that all Peter was doing here? Peter was
      > earlier, and more forcefully, rebuked for simply urging Jesus not to
      > see through his mission of dying for our sins. ("Get thee behind me,
      > Satan!") Isn't that what Peter was doing here, too?

      > Have you read Revelations? In light of which, it is well to remember
      > that Jesus also said "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a
      > sword". Now, one can argue that Jesus was not speaking of a literal
      > sword (I would make the same argument) but no matter how you interpret
      > it, it is clear that Jesus's message was not simply one of "peace".
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