19343Re: [mythsoc] Mystical Realms . . .
- Jan 10, 2008On Jan 10, 2008, at 2:44 AM, John D Rateliff wrote:
> I am dubious that this is 'the purpose of government' (i.e., thatI didn't say that governments "arose" for this purpose (though many
> governments arose from such benign and altruistic motives).
did, at least in part). I said this _is_ (pretty much) the purpose of
government: present tense, and in the specific context of this
discussion concerning CSL and Aquinas. It has certainly been the
primary purpose of esp. democratic governments. Tolkien also saw it as
a primary purpose of (legitimate) monarchies.
> The example of Peter, who is rebuked for meeting violence withIs that all Jesus was? Is that all Peter was doing here? Peter was
> violence in order to protect an innocent man from torture and death,
earlier, and more forcefully, rebuked for simply urging Jesus not to
see through his mission of dying for our sins. ("Get thee behind me,
Satan!") Isn't that what Peter was doing here, too?
> seems pretty emphatic that, so far as the gospel is concerned, thereHave you read Revelations? In light of which, it is well to remember
> is no 'good violence'.
that Jesus also said "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a
sword". Now, one can argue that Jesus was not speaking of a literal
sword (I would make the same argument) but no matter how you interpret
it, it is clear that Jesus's message was not simply one of "peace".
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