18188RE: [mythsoc] JRRT/David Jones
- May 18, 2007Adam Schwartz writes:
"J acknowledged T in the preface to the Anathemata, though is never more
specific about what he read that was so influential. My guess would be
"On Fairy Stories," but there is no way of being sure. J read The
Hobbitt; in the 1950s, he told Colin Wilcockson that he thought he would
like LOTR, but that he could not get past the bit he heard on the
wireless (which would be what?). It does not seem that he came back to
it later. J and T never met, and it is most unlikely that J would have
ever heard T lecture, as J became more and more agoraphobic over time
and rarely left his room in private hotels in London. There is no
evidence that T read J, though Lewis did refer briefly to The Anathemata
in his Cambridge inaugural address."
For more on David Jones, see Schwartz' THE THIRD SPRING (2005), a fine
study of Jones, G.K. Chesterton, Graham Greene, and Christopher Dawson
as convert Catholic writers.
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At 11:07 PM 5/15/2007 -0700, John D Rateliff wrote:
>Taum Santoski tried to find out more about the Tolkien/JonesI found a reference in the preface to The Anathemata (1951). Tolkien's
>connection, but he was never able to turn up anything. Tolkien is
>among those thanked in the front matter of one of Jones' major poems
>(either IN PARENTHESIS or ANATHEMATA--I forget which, and don't have
>copies of either handy to look it up), but it's unclear whether he
>actually knew Tolkien, attended a few of his lectures at Oxford (a la
>Auden), or simply read JRRT's BEOWULF: THE MONSTERS & THE CRITICS,
>though I suspect the last. If someone has done further research on
>this, I'd be interested in being pointed at the results.
name is one of about fifty in a list that Jones specifically identifies
one of "living or recently living authors to whom I stand indebted," and
goes on to say more about having consulted or read their books, though
mostly doesn't specify what he read by or got out of each author.
Elsewhere in the preface he quotes C.S. Lewis, but Lewis is not in the
list, which Jones says is random and arbitrary.
Jones is unlikely to have heard Tolkien lecture at Oxford anyway
unlike Auden, he didn't go to Oxford, or to university at all.
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