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17407Re: [mythsoc] Some Interesting Issues: (Was: Re: J. Chance / Marquette)

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  • Walter Padgett
    Dec 5, 2006

      I am reminded here of Michael D.C. Drout's blog, which talks (in
      places) about "Civility in Academia"-- the context is the hiring
      process that academic departments go through when hiring academics.
      No academic, it seems upon reflection, should want to be an academic.
      Check his site: http://acunix.wheatonma.edu/mdrout/

      Thanks, Walter.

      On 12/4/06, Lezlie <lezlie1@...> wrote:
      > Just my 2 cents:
      > It is also true that academics are required to publish & present at
      > conferences as a part of their employment. They get right testy in
      > guarding their research and frustrated in obtaining access to private
      > collections -- especially if that collection is some distance away
      > from home & the research is not supported in some really grounded way.
      > You may have witnessed this phenomenon in action.
      > They also often have to purchase copy from their publishers for review
      > by their departments or for other reasons. In the US, because the job
      > market is so very tight, some fields are full of "independent
      > scholars" who write, publish, present, and teach either part time
      > (because they can't do otherwise) at several institutions, or work in
      > the private sector. It is much harder to gain access to libraries or
      > to conduct studies in -- say -- psychology without a recognized IRB to
      > review the proposals, or to grant write -- but, that seems to be the
      > way things are going.
      > If you are a new Ph.D. the publishing & presentation part will a)
      > leave you broke b) cause your friends and relations to counsel you to
      > find a different occupation and c) is **also** required in order to
      > land that job somewhere that might get you tenure. Maybe. If you are
      > very lucky.
      > Some universities insist that Profs. also do a lot of grant writing
      > and are reviewed on how much they've contributed to their departments
      > in terms of $$ in order to remain employed. Personally, I don't
      > begrudge the extra $$ Ph.Ds, Profs. & other teaching faculty make off
      > the occasional paying publication, be it about Tolkien or otherwise.
      > The sad part is that scholars do all of these things and still don't
      > get appointments and start believing that they are somehow deficit in
      > either education or something else and go out and get more educated or
      > leave their respective fields to teach K-12, work in the private
      > sector, or even sling hash. In one case that I know of, she became a
      > lawyer. It isn't a pretty picture for the state of original research
      > being done in a supported way in **anyone's** field. Lezlie <in the
      > middle of it all>
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