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16831Re: [mythsoc] Re: Bede's calendar/Tolkien's, &"borrowing"

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  • Walter Padgett
    Jul 24, 2006
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      I had a similar experience when I first read *The Song of Roland*. Roland's
      horn is named Oliphant, and of course this reminded me immediately of
      Tolkien's Oliphaunts, which Sam was so excited to see.


      On 7/24/06, ccampboyle <ccampboyle@...> wrote:
      >
      > (De-lurking)
      >
      > I had a similar experience in high school (New York, about 1977)when I
      > discovered the Latin title of Erasmus's "In Praise of Folly" was
      > "Encomium Moria." I just had this flash "let folly be our cloak,"
      > particularly since the Moria venture was Gandalf's idea.
      >
      > Cathy Boyle
      > (re-lurking for another year or so.)
      >
      >
      > --- In mythsoc@yahoogroups.com <mythsoc%40yahoogroups.com>, Bonnie
      > Callahan <bonolatm@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Interesting in general about Tolkien's ability to
      > > borrow creatively from obscure sources. To name a few:
      > >
      > > As a teen I bought into all of his world as
      > > "invented". Then in Freshman Anthropology, studied
      > > early Middle East, found "Erech". Found a ref. to Mt.
      > > Moriah. Pope's home; Castle Gandolfo.
      > >
      > > Hobbit names. My Jr. High "girls VP" was a
      > > "Brockhouse". There's a "Chubb Gp." financial
      > > org/ins, co. A huge real estate concern out here in
      > > West; "GRUBB- Ellis". Check out those phone books in
      > > England for many others!
      > >
      > > Senator Bilbo from the deep south many decades ago.
      > >
      > > Wales in 1975; Found that souvenir Welsh doll
      > > named "Eirwen" (Snow White, pronounced Arwen)
      > >
      > > My memory of having seen someone's doll in
      > > '50s with a blue tunic, yellow pants, & other
      > > characteristics that popped into my head the moment I
      > > read the description of Tom Bombadil.
      > >
      > > It felt almost psychic, to pick up these echoes of
      > > cross-cultural resonance in as sheltered an
      > > environment as the San Fernando Valley in 1966.
      > >
      > > Middle Earth is here & now!!!
      > >
      > > Bonnie
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >


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