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  • menelvagor1939
    Feb 2, 2006
      Dear John,

      Thanks for this additional information on Barfield's novels, and for
      correcting my impression that ENGLISH PEOPLE was unfinished. I approve
      your suggestion about trying to get them into print.

      That's very interesting about N.I.C.E. I thought that was an obvious
      pun that Lewis invented. Now that makes me wonder if he DID indeed
      write the "beauty of the female" quote.


      In mythsoc@yahoogroups.com, John D Rateliff <sacnoth@...> wrote:
      > On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:29 AM, menelvagor1939 wrote:
      > >
      > > I think the reference to Barfield's unfinished novel may be important.
      > > Does anyone in this group have access to the Wade collection or has
      > > anyone visited it to check out Barfield's manuscript? The relevant
      > > information may be found at <http://www.owenbarfield.com/>
      > Yes, ENGLISH PEOPLE is at the Wade, but just for the record it's not
      > an "unfinished novel". Rather, it's a long (500-page) novel Barfield
      > wrote circa 1930 or shortly before that he couldn't get published.
      > The only surviving copy is missing five or so chapters in the middle--
      > say about twenty or thirty pages, which were removed from the
      > typescript at some point for reasons unknown and lost. It's truly
      > excellent, except for the ending (ironically, the only part that's
      > been published: an embedded novella one character reads to the rest
      > called "The Rose and the Ash-heap" (or something very similar--it's
      > been over twenty years since I read the book and my memory of it
      > isn't as precise as I shd like). Nor is this the only unpublished
      > Barfield: the excellent short novel EAGER SPRING, which he wrote in
      > the late 1980s, also languishes in unpublished limbo. I'm luckier
      > there, though, since I have a copy of EAGER SPRING and can re-read it
      > whenever I want (I wrote the introduction for the abortive BookMakers
      > Guild edition in 1989 or thereabouts).
      > Unfortunately, it's simply been too long for me to remember whether
      > the lilith quote comes from Barfield's book, though Lewis does borrow
      > the idea of N.I.C.E. from ENGLISH PEOPLE. I do remember that the only
      > Arthurian connection is a cat named Merlin.
      > It's my opinion that there'd be no better project for the Mythopoeic
      > Press to undertake than trying to get these two works into print,
      > possibly also with THIS EVER-DIVERSE PAIR (the story of a split
      > personality, narrated by one of the two halves of main character's
      > mind); among other delights it includes C. S. Lewis as a character in
      > one chapter).
      > --John R.
      > current reading: THE GRAND TOUR by Wrede & Stevermer
      > current writing: the death of Bard
      > current music: CONCERT FOR GEORGE (not David Seville).
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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