13276Re: [mythsoc] Tolkien and Freemasonry
- Dec 2, 2004
>It reminds one of the discussion of similarities between Tolkien's Ring and Wagner's Ring and Tolkien's response along the lines of "they're both rings, and there the comparison ends." Same here, they're both eyes.....
> On Dec 2, 2004, at 7:28 AM, anilerkan wrote:
> > Has anybody read anywhere that there could be a relationship between
> > LOTR and freemasonry.
> > Especially the eye in the book (and movie) are to similar to miss.
> > Any body have any views on this?
> Sure, here's mine:
> 1) As I understand it, the symbol of the Eye in Masonic mythology is a
> reference to the Eye of Thoth, who was in Renaissance Hermetism (the
> source of Masonry) equated
> with Hermes -- held by the ancients to be the source of knowledge,
> practical and magical, including writing -- and thus with Hermes
> Trismegistus, whom the Hemetists wrongly believed to be the author of a
> number of ancient, pre-Mosaic alchemical texts that were taken as
> representing an ancient, pristine, and prefiguring form of
> Christianity. (In fact, the texts were later shown on linguistic and
> historical grounds to be 2nd to 3rd century Gnostic texts.) The upshot
> being that, to the Masons, the Eye represents wisdom and true knowledge
> and all sorts of other good, profound, and holy associations.
> 2) The Eye of Sauron is a metaphor, a symbol of the Enemy's burning,
> consuming, and questing malevolence, wholly evil.
> 3) The Eye of Peter Jackson's movie is a comical misreading of Tolkien,
> taking a metaphor and turning it into a giant, literal sight gag (puns
> The three things really have nothing at all in common.
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