12523RE: [mythsoc] Just got the joke!
- Jul 9, 2004I think that the movie was the principal example in the original post. And
yes I love that scene in The Dragon where the four greatest heroes in all
the Shire are sitting at one table and everone else....Is impressed by a guy
who grew a really big pumpkin. A big pumpkin is just not as impressive
after you've deen an oliphant
From: Paul Labaki [mailto:pflabaki2@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Just got the joke!
--- Leelan <modeltsar@...> wrote:
>gulf that separates them from their community.
> Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pip look at each other and
> those around them and are extremely aware of the
I think only Frodo has been set apart in this way,
even though Sam, too, was a Ringbearer. All four are
immediately welcomed back by their fellow hobbits, and
are the leaders in the scouring of the Shire.
Eventually, Sam is Mayor, Pippin the Thain and Merry
the Master of Buckland. Frodo, who sacrificed most,
was the one who had to give up the Shire so that it
was saved for others, including Sam, Pippin and Merry,
all their hobbit relations and the Bracegirdles,
> How can they go back to the way things were >afterwhat they had seen and done?
It's possible for them because they are hobbits. Most
likely men and women wouldn't respond this way, for
the most part, but hobbits differ from us big people.
Also, they did not go back to the way things were.
They arrived home to an unexpected horror, Sauron's
touch felt in the Shire itself. As best they could,
they took action to put things back the way they had
been before the War of the Ring.
>They can't. They had "seen the elephant" and >couldnot forget.
Perhaps they could not forget, but experience is part
of personal growth. They grew and changed, but not
even Frodo lost his essence, his self, his hobbitness,
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