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11809Re: [mythsoc] Re: March 25

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  • Larry Swain
    Mar 26, 2004
      That's cuz Tom's a medievalist and Anglo-Saxonist, such calendrical discussions are our bread and butter.

      ljs



      > <lurk off />
      >
      > I was just looking up this data a couple of days ago.
      >
      > Tom Shippey mentions most of this in JRRT:AotC, page 208.
      > He also talks about the English new year being the 25th of March until
      > the Gregorian calendar reforms of 1752. Further, the English year still
      > begins on the 6th of April--for taxes only though.
      >
      > I don't know the reference in _Letters_.
      >
      > John
      > Magna est veritas et praevalebit
      >
      > <lurk on />
      >
      > Larry Swain wrote:
      > > In addition, March 25 was also considered in some quarters the creation of light and darkness in Genesis 1 (the Vernal equinox being the first day of creation in this scheme), (and so the first day of the year, one can not count time without the sun, moon, and stars, so counting time begins on the fourth day), the day of the Fall,the day of Annunciation, and the actual day that Christ died. Tollers was aware of all this and made use of it in LoTR--it is no secret that the overthrow of Sauron and the overthrow of Satan would then both occur on March 25, and be New Year's Day as a result, when Light Overcomes Darkness. I think Tolkien mentioned it in the Letters somewhere.....
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      > > Larry Swain
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      > >>>In old England it was called "Lady Day." In church terms, it was
      > >>
      > >>and still
      > >>
      > >>>is the Feast of the Annunciation, precisely nine months before
      > >>
      > >>Christmas, when
      > >>
      > >>>the Angel brought the tidings unto Mary and she said, "Be it unto
      > >>
      > >>me according
      > >>
      > >>>to thy word.".
      > >>>
      > >>>For awhile, in England, it was the official start of a new year.
      > >>>
      > >>>Happy spring indeed, to everyone (unless anyone here is living Down
      > >>
      > >>Under?)
      > >>
      > >>This time of the year is a mixed blessing for those of us down-
      > >>under. It means a relief from the blistering temperatures of summer
      > >>(40 degC +) and a slide into the bliss of autumn until it is jumper
      > >>time for winter. At least of those of us in Brisbane which is
      > >>located in the subtropics. So we too celebrate this time :-)
      > >>
      > >>caio
      > >>Graeme
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      > >>
      > >>The Mythopoeic Society website http://www.mythsoc.org
      > >>Yahoo! Groups Links
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      > The Mythopoeic Society website http://www.mythsoc.org
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
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