10913Re: [mythsoc] Howard Shore
- Jan 3, 2004I watched the Extended Version of TTT last night over at a friend's house,
and wish they'd put Miranda Otto's lament on the CD. Musically speaking,
Otto's lament was raw, but moving, at least as good as Mortensen's mumbled
mush on RotK, perhaps better. VM's song is on the CD, credited with the
melody. VM's not *bad* as far as portraying the character goes, [a king
being crowned, likely performing a ritual song to seal the ceremony, which
could be a nice artsy touch] but he's not that good a singer either;
probably about as good as many a Numenoran king could manage, kings
generally not being noted for good singing (unless they're elves?). Of
course, in my mind, Aragorn should be good at *everything!* :) ---djb
From: David Bratman dbratman@...
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:22:36 -0800
Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Howard Shore
At 01:55 PM 12/28/2003 -0600, Jay Hershberger wrote:
>A decade or too back, I read an article by a musicologist who argued thatHe
>movies in the 20th century had functionally replaced 19th century opera.
>also argued that Wagner's vision of the "music drama"--an integration ofWagner was interested in any technological means that would help him tell
>music, theatre, and visual art--had been achieved by Hollywood in ways
>Wagner himself little anticipated.
his story in the way he wanted, and I've no doubt that he would have
employed electronic amplification, sound recording, and film, had he lived
to see them. He certainly wouldn't have consented to write music for
someone else's films, though. Either he'd have become a complete film
auteur - writing, directing, producing, and composing - as he did for his
operas; or else he'd have employed film in stage productions, a la Steve
Reich and Beryl Korot's "Three Tales" (one of which I've seen performed).
>IMO, Howard Shore understood his task very well in Jackson's trilogy. Hisevident
>use of the leitmotif and the technique of thematic transformation is
>throughout the films, and finds greatest expression in the finalSure, he understood his task. And I noted and appreciated his ability to
>installment. This musician found Shore's writing in the ROTK to be more
>nuanced, subtle, and a full-flowered harvest of the musical elements found
>in the previous films. I found his musical understatement of the climax of
>the film's plot to be quite effective.
make more intelligent use of his leitmotifs than most film composers would
do. He can develop and transform in a better than average way. Yet there
were musical choices in this film I considered very unwise and unsupportive
of the drama - I mentioned this in my original post. And a hack, though a
competent hack, Shore remains: his work usually performs its surface task,
but it entirely lacks the depth of the story it's trying to support.
- David Bratman
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