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  • Pat Delany
    Maybe it was someone else. It had a lot of general shop stuff like chisel edge shapes, What set the book apart was the quality of the drawings. I  will feel
    Message 1 of 12 , Dec 10, 2012
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      Maybe it was someone else. It had a lot of general shop stuff like chisel edge shapes, What set the book apart was the quality of the drawings. I  will feel like a fool when I find the name again.

      How are you doing? Did you ever get some kind of an enclosed shop? I think my shop days are over even if my new doctors really help.

      Pat


      From: Shannon DeWolfe <sdewolfe@...>
      To: multimachine@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:55 PM
      Subject: Re: [multimachine] shannon

       
      Pat, are you talking about "Modern American Lathe Practice"? (Modern
      being 1907.)

      I sent that directly to your email, not to the group. I sent it because
      the entire first chapter is a history of machine tools. I suppose a lot
      of it could be used in a modern (being 2012) lathe class. Much has been
      learned in the century since the book was published but it certainly has
      a lot of good information.

      It is available on Google Books:

      http://books.google.com/books?id=uyKmAAAAIAAJ&dq=modern%20lathe%20practice&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

      For those who cannot reach it there, try archive.org:

      http://archive.org/details/modernamericanla00perrrich

      Regards,

      Mr. Shannon DeWolfe
      --I've taken to using Mr. because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 56 year old fat man.

      On 12/10/2012 1:16 PM, Pat wrote:
      >
      > lost the name of that great, last book you sent. it was a big shop
      > manual that had a lot of hand drawings in it. Wonder if it could be
      > used as a textbook in the Kenya trade school.
      >
      > thanks
      > pat
      >



    • Shannon DeWolfe
      Pat, Maybe you were thinking of this link that David provided: http://www.americanmachinetools.com/how_to_use_a_lathe.htm My little shop still leaks. Regards,
      Message 2 of 12 , Dec 11, 2012
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        Pat,

        Maybe you were thinking of this link that David provided:

        http://www.americanmachinetools.com/how_to_use_a_lathe.htm

        My little shop still leaks.

        Regards,

        Mr. Shannon DeWolfe
        --I've taken to using Mr. because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 56 year old fat man.

        On 12/10/2012 7:22 PM, Pat Delany wrote:
        > Maybe it was someone else. It had a lot of general shop stuff like
        > chisel edge shapes, What set the book apart was the quality of the
        > drawings. I will feel like a fool when I find the name again.
        >
        > How are you doing? Did you ever get some kind of an enclosed shop? I
        > think my shop days are over even if my new doctors really help.
        >
        > Pat
        >
      • Jason Jystad
        Nice one Shannon! I am going to have to read over that, it looks like a decent starting point so the other stuff makes more sense. My former roommate left his
        Message 3 of 12 , Dec 11, 2012
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          Nice one Shannon! I am going to have to read over that, it looks like a decent starting point so the other stuff makes more sense.

          My former roommate left his Grizzly machine lathe behind, temporarily - he has limited room in his new shop, and I keep looking at it and thinking I should be using it since I finally have access to a metal lathe whenever I want.

          Of course, given how little I know of how to operate one, I would likely just get myself caught in it and make a spectacle of myself -, which is not the point at all. :)

          I have been meaning to try to work through some of the more basic stuff from tubalcain too.

          Jason


          On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Shannon DeWolfe <sdewolfe@...> wrote:
           

          Pat,

          Maybe you were thinking of this link that David provided:

          http://www.americanmachinetools.com/how_to_use_a_lathe.htm

          My little shop still leaks.



          Regards,

          Mr. Shannon DeWolfe
          --I've taken to using Mr. because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 56 year old fat man.

          On 12/10/2012 7:22 PM, Pat Delany wrote:
          > Maybe it was someone else. It had a lot of general shop stuff like
          > chisel edge shapes, What set the book apart was the quality of the
          > drawings. I will feel like a fool when I find the name again.
          >
          > How are you doing? Did you ever get some kind of an enclosed shop? I
          > think my shop days are over even if my new doctors really help.
          >
          > Pat
          >


        • Pat Delany
          Great book but not the one i am looking for. Thanks ________________________________ From: Shannon DeWolfe To:
          Message 4 of 12 , Dec 11, 2012
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            Great book but not the one i am looking for.

            Thanks


            From: Shannon DeWolfe <sdewolfe@...>
            To: multimachine@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:18 PM
            Subject: Re: [multimachine] shannon

             
            Pat,

            Maybe you were thinking of this link that David provided:

            http://www.americanmachinetools.com/how_to_use_a_lathe.htm

            My little shop still leaks.

            Regards,

            Mr. Shannon DeWolfe
            --I've taken to using Mr. because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 56 year old fat man.

            On 12/10/2012 7:22 PM, Pat Delany wrote:
            > Maybe it was someone else. It had a lot of general shop stuff like
            > chisel edge shapes, What set the book apart was the quality of the
            > drawings. I will feel like a fool when I find the name again.
            >
            > How are you doing? Did you ever get some kind of an enclosed shop? I
            > think my shop days are over even if my new doctors really help.
            >
            > Pat
            >



          • David R Forrest
            Perhaps Farm Shop Practice by Mack Jones, 1939?
            Message 5 of 12 , Dec 11, 2012
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              Perhaps "Farm Shop Practice" by Mack Jones, 1939?

              http://www.basiccarpentrytechniques.com/Farm%20Shop%20Practice/1A%20Farm%20Shop%20Practice%20Farm%20Woodwork%20&%20Carpentry.htm

              Dave

              On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Pat Delany <rigmatch@...>
              wrote:

              >
              >
              > Great book but not the one i am looking for.
              >
              > Thanks
              >
              > From: Shannon DeWolfe <sdewolfe@...>
              > To: multimachine@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:18 PM
              > Subject: Re: [multimachine] shannon
              >
              > Pat,
              >
              > Maybe you were thinking of this link that David provided:
              >
              > http://www.americanmachinetools.com/how_to_use_a_lathe.htm
              >
              > My little shop still leaks.
              >
              > Regards,
              >
              > Mr. Shannon DeWolfe
              > --I've taken to using Mr. because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 56 year old fat man.
              >
              > On 12/10/2012 7:22 PM, Pat Delany wrote:
              > > Maybe it was someone else. It had a lot of general shop stuff like
              > > chisel edge shapes, What set the book apart was the quality of the
              > > drawings. I will feel like a fool when I find the name again.
              > >
              > > How are you doing? Did you ever get some kind of an enclosed shop? I
              > > think my shop days are over even if my new doctors really help.
              > >
              > > Pat
              > >
            • Pat
              Great series for Jeremmy! Still not what I was looking for though. Maybe Dave will know. Pat
              Message 6 of 12 , Dec 11, 2012
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                Great series for Jeremmy! Still not what I was looking for though.

                Maybe Dave will know.

                Pat

                --- In multimachine@yahoogroups.com, David R Forrest <drf@...> wrote:
                >
                >
                > Perhaps "Farm Shop Practice" by Mack Jones, 1939?
                >
                > http://www.basiccarpentrytechniques.com/Farm%20Shop%20Practice/1A%20Farm%20Shop%20Practice%20Farm%20Woodwork%20&%20Carpentry.htm
                >
                > Dave
                >
                > On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Pat Delany <rigmatch@...>
                > wrote:
                >
                > >
                > >
                > > Great book but not the one i am looking for.
                > >
                > > Thanks
                > >
                > > From: Shannon DeWolfe <sdewolfe@...>
                > > To: multimachine@yahoogroups.com
                > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:18 PM
                > > Subject: Re: [multimachine] shannon
                > >
                > > Pat,
                > >
                > > Maybe you were thinking of this link that David provided:
                > >
                > > http://www.americanmachinetools.com/how_to_use_a_lathe.htm
                > >
                > > My little shop still leaks.
                > >
                > > Regards,
                > >
                > > Mr. Shannon DeWolfe
                > > --I've taken to using Mr. because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 56 year old fat man.
                > >
                > > On 12/10/2012 7:22 PM, Pat Delany wrote:
                > > > Maybe it was someone else. It had a lot of general shop stuff like
                > > > chisel edge shapes, What set the book apart was the quality of the
                > > > drawings. I will feel like a fool when I find the name again.
                > > >
                > > > How are you doing? Did you ever get some kind of an enclosed shop? I
                > > > think my shop days are over even if my new doctors really help.
                > > >
                > > > Pat
                > > >
                >
              • David G. LeVine
                ... Jason, Free advise, until you know how to safely run a lathe, don t. Learn the ins and outs of safely running a lathe (like absolutely NO long sleeved
                Message 7 of 12 , Dec 11, 2012
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                  On 12/11/2012 09:29 PM, Jason Jystad wrote:

                  Of course, given how little I know of how to operate one, I would likely just get myself caught in it and make a spectacle of myself -, which is not the point at all. :)

                  I have been meaning to try to work through some of the more basic stuff from tubalcain too.

                  Jason

                  Jason,

                  Free advise, until you know how to safely run a lathe, don't.  Learn the ins and outs of safely running a lathe (like absolutely NO long sleeved shirts or sweaters), then learn how to set it up and use it.  Until you know about the safety side, you are asking to be hurt or die. 

                  Perhaps your former roommate can give you the "boring 5 minute safety lecture" so you don't damage his lathe.

                  Dave  8{)

                  --

                  "The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
                  Niccolo Machiavelli

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                  THANK YOU!
                • Jason Jystad
                  Dave, Thanks for the advice, it is sound advice that I wished more people listened to in general in the shop. The stupid crap I have seen... My former roommate
                  Message 8 of 12 , Dec 11, 2012
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                    Dave,

                    Thanks for the advice, it is sound advice that I wished more people listened to in general in the shop. The stupid crap I have seen...

                    My former roommate has given me the required "boring 5 minute safety lecture" and is amused that I am still not willing to touch it until I learn a bit more. :)

                    I have a fair amount of experience with metal working by hand, mostly silver and copper work in the jewelry studio and steel work in a gas hand forge. (Hammers! We loves them! Clang!) And variations on gas welding in both contexts. I do need to get off my hiney and pick up some basic arc welding skills too.

                    That lathe is an imposing bastard and while I am confident at this point that I could operate it without having EMT personnel nearby, I am less confident of my ability to know what to avoid doing to keep from damaging the equipment. I want a better grasp of materials, lubrication, and feed/cutting rates.

                    I am planning on working through several different basic sources and going over the results with my roommate to make sure I get it before I embark on using the lathe. Thus my interest in the materials just posted. Then I will go machine a bunch of simple shapes as practice first. I am currently interested in being able to machine custom fittings for some walking canes I have in mind and some other similar items.

                    Besides, I have to finish rebuilding my bandsaw first. It has been all disassembled for a couple of months waiting for me to find time to get back to it. *sigh* so little time.

                    Thanks for the concern, and the good neighbor advice.
                    Jason


                    On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:29 PM, David G. LeVine <dlevine@...> wrote:
                     

                    On 12/11/2012 09:29 PM, Jason Jystad wrote:

                    Of course, given how little I know of how to operate one, I would likely just get myself caught in it and make a spectacle of myself -, which is not the point at all. :)

                    I have been meaning to try to work through some of the more basic stuff from tubalcain too.

                    Jason

                    Jason,

                    Free advise, until you know how to safely run a lathe, don't.  Learn the ins and outs of safely running a lathe (like absolutely NO long sleeved shirts or sweaters), then learn how to set it up and use it.  Until you know about the safety side, you are asking to be hurt or die. 

                    Perhaps your former roommate can give you the "boring 5 minute safety lecture" so you don't damage his lathe.

                    Dave  8{)

                    --

                    "The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
                    Niccolo Machiavelli

                    NOTE TO ALL:

                    When forwarding emails, please use only "Blind Carbon Copy" or "Bcc" for all recipients. Please "delete" or "highlight & cut" any forwarding history which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated.


                    THANK YOU!


                  • Pat Delany
                    VERY WELL SAID!!!!! Pat ________________________________ From: David G. LeVine To: multimachine@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December
                    Message 9 of 12 , Dec 12, 2012
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                      VERY WELL SAID!!!!!

                      Pat



                      From: David G. LeVine <dlevine@...>
                      To: multimachine@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:29 PM
                      Subject: Re: [multimachine] shannon

                       
                      On 12/11/2012 09:29 PM, Jason Jystad wrote:

                      Of course, given how little I know of how to operate one, I would likely just get myself caught in it and make a spectacle of myself -, which is not the point at all. :)

                      I have been meaning to try to work through some of the more basic stuff from tubalcain too.

                      Jason

                      Jason,

                      Free advise, until you know how to safely run a lathe, don't.  Learn the ins and outs of safely running a lathe (like absolutely NO long sleeved shirts or sweaters), then learn how to set it up and use it.  Until you know about the safety side, you are asking to be hurt or die. 

                      Perhaps your former roommate can give you the "boring 5 minute safety lecture" so you don't damage his lathe.

                      Dave  8{)

                      --

                      "The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
                      Niccolo Machiavelli

                      NOTE TO ALL:

                      When forwarding emails, please use only "Blind Carbon Copy" or "Bcc" for all recipients. Please "delete" or "highlight & cut" any forwarding history which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated.


                      THANK YOU!


                    • David G. LeVine
                      ... You are entirely welcome, that was the boring 10 second safety lecture. ... knows what I is doin , Hey, Bubba, watch this! You appear to be in the former
                      Message 10 of 12 , Dec 12, 2012
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                        On 12/11/2012 11:49 PM, Jason Jystad wrote:

                        Dave,

                        Thanks for the advice, it is sound advice that I wished more people listened to in general in the shop. The stupid crap I have seen...

                        You are entirely welcome, that was the boring 10 second safety lecture. :^D Most people either fit the "Oh, s**t, that can happen?" or the "I knows what I is doin', Hey, Bubba, watch this!" You appear to be in the former group.

                        My former roommate has given me the required "boring 5 minute safety lecture" and is amused that I am still not willing to touch it until I learn a bit more. :)

                        Then he did the right thing.  After you get over the idea that it is dangerous, DO NOT be less vigilant, don't machine while under the influence or too tired.  Simply remember that driving is dangerous, people get killed regularly, but it is much less dangerous than DUI or DWS (Driving While Stupid/Stoned.)  You seem to have the proper mind set, however, know what you are doing and always assume that you will be at risk if you don't.  A man who knows the dead soft aluminum chips from 0.005" cut are not very dangerous STILL will not grab a handful to get them out of the way so he NEVER does it with those blue, tool steel chips.

                        Dave  8{)

                        --

                        "The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
                        Niccolo Machiavelli

                        NOTE TO ALL:

                        When forwarding emails, please use only "Blind Carbon Copy" or "Bcc" for all recipients. Please "delete" or "highlight & cut" any forwarding history which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated.


                        THANK YOU!
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