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  • Tofu Optimist
    Thanks Ged. ... Well, I opted to reinstall everything, starting with a fresh RH9. Then I removed all the relevant RH9 RPMS: root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_ssl
    Message 1 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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      Thanks Ged.

      > [4] Is a full uninstall enough, or should I
      > reinstall RH itself?
      >
      > No, don't reinstall the entire OS. Get used to what
      > your system feels
      > like and eventually you'll know what to leave alone
      > and what to change.

      Well, I opted to reinstall everything, starting with a
      fresh RH9.

      Then I removed all the relevant RH9 RPMS:

      root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_ssl
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_python
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e pho
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php-ldap
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php-imap
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e redhat-config-httpd
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e webalizer
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_perl
      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e httpd

      (I had to take out mod_ssl, mod_python, etc so as to
      free up dependencies.)

      MY QUESTION:

      Now I want to remove perl, too:

      [root@SAM root]# rpm -e perl
      error: Failed dependencies:
      perl is needed by (installed) logwatch-4.3.1-2
      perl is needed by (installed) w3m-0.3.2.2-5
      perl >= 0:5.002 is needed by (installed)
      perl-Filter-1.29-3
      perl >= 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed)
      perl-DateManip-5.40-30
      perl >= 0:5.000 is needed by (installed)
      perl-DateManip-5.40-30
      perl >= 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed)
      perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-28
      perl >= 1:5 is needed by (installed)
      perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-28
      perl >= 5.6.0 is needed by (installed)
      perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-17
      perl >= 0:5.004 is needed by (installed)
      perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-17
      perl >= 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed)
      perl-Parse-Yapp-1.05-30
      perl >= 0:5.004 is needed by (installed)
      perl-Parse-Yapp-1.05-30
      perl >= 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed)
      perl-URI-1.21-7
      perl >= 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed)
      perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6
      perl >= 0:5.002 is needed by (installed)
      perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6
      perl >= 0:5.004 is needed by (installed)
      perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6
      perl >= 0:5.005 is needed by (installed)
      perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6
      perl >= 2:5.8.0 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Parser-2.31-15
      perl >= 0:5.004 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Parser-2.31-15
      perl >= 5.6.0 is needed by (installed)
      perl-libxml-perl-0.07-28
      perl >= 0:5.005 is needed by (installed)
      perl-libxml-perl-0.07-28
      perl >= 5.6.0 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Dumper-0.4-25
      perl >= 5.6.0 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Encoding-1.01-23
      perl >= 0:5.005 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Encoding-1.01-23
      perl >= 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed)
      perl-libxml-enno-1.02-29
      perl >= 5.6.0 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Grove-0.46alpha-25
      perl >= 0:5.005 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Grove-0.46alpha-25
      perl >= 0:5.004 is needed by (installed)
      perl-XML-Twig-3.09-3
      perl >= 5.6.1 is needed by (installed)
      foomatic-2.0.2-15
      perl is needed by (installed)
      redhat-config-printer-0.6.47-1
      perl >= 1:5 is needed by (installed)
      emacs-21.2-33
      perl is needed by (installed)
      libgnomeprint22-2.2.1.1-3
      perl is needed by (installed)
      docbook-dtds-1.0-17
      perl is needed by (installed)
      libgnomeprint-1.116.0-6
      perl is needed by (installed)
      desktop-printing-0.1.10-6
      perl >= 1:5 is needed by (installed)
      xscreensaver-4.07-2
      perl is needed by (installed) autoconf-2.57-3
      perl >= 0:5.000 is needed by (installed)
      autoconf-2.57-3
      perl >= 0:5.005_03 is needed by (installed)
      autoconf-2.57-3
      perl is needed by (installed)
      automake14-1.4p6-5.1
      perl is needed by (installed) automake15-1.5-6
      perl >= 0:5.005 is needed by (installed)
      automake15-1.5-6


      Now, in this forum I heard the importance of building
      perl with the same compiler that you use for httpd and
      mod_perl.

      Am I going to have problems following the MP 2.0
      install instructions

      http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/install/install.html

      if I don't nuke the current perl first?

      Thanks.

      And this time I'll restrict my reading to the 2.0
      install docs, rather than dipping back into the 1.0
      docs in the middle of 2.0 install. (Doh!)

      Thanks for advice on this --

      A






      > > > Did you build your own Perl?
      > > Yes, 5.8.0
      > Good. You might want to try 5.8.1 soon, but I don't
      > think that's a
      > problem here.
      >
      > > > Have you cleaned up any old Apaches and
      > mod_perls?
      > >
      > > No. There are probably hordes of perls and hpptds
      > and mod_perls
      > > running amok on the box throwing wild parties; I
      > don't know.
      >
      > Argh. The Apache2/modperl2 that comes with RH9 is
      > junk. Get rid of
      > it all. Use 'ps' to see what processes you have
      > running and stop any
      > httpd processes that you don't think you started.
      > RH will start an
      > Apache when it boots if you let it, I wish they
      > wouldn't do that.
      > Read 'man chkconfig'. Go into /etc/rc.d and look at
      > the startup
      > scripts. Use chkconfig to prevent Apache being
      > started at boot so
      > you can start it manually when you've built it.
      > When you're happy
      > that it's all as you wnt it, you might want to use
      > chkconfig to set
      > it up to start at boot again.
      >
      > > I think my next step should be to start over
      > fresh.
      > > Again.
      >
      > :)
      >
      > > [1] How do I find *everything* on the box related
      > to
      > > perl / apache / mod_perl, both 1 and 2, both the
      > RH
      > > install and from my own ftp / tar / make
      > fumblings?
      > > [2] How do I uninstall everything from [1], so I
      > can
      > > start fresh?
      >
      > Well RH should let you uninstall packages with rpm,
      > but I don't use
      > rpm and I tend to avoid RedHat so I don't know
      > exactly how you'd do
      > it. My preference would be to look in /usr/local/
      > and /var/lib to see
      > if there are any apache things such as
      > /usr/local/apache, and if so go
      > in there as root and rm -rf the entire apache
      > directory. That will
      > perhaps throw away config files etc. you've been
      > working on, you might
      > want to make backups. When you've done that you
      > might want to use
      > slocate to build a database of filenames on your
      > filesystem, then use
      > it to search for any httpd or apachectl files that
      > escaped. If so
      > there'll probably be truckloads of files in there
      > with them. Nukem.
      > The source trees in your home directory don't
      > matter. Nuke them too.
      > You won't need to do anything about Perl on your
      > system if you really
      > did compile it from source yourself.
      >
      > > [3] I'd prefer to use modperl 2 and apache 2, as
      > that is what my ISP
      > > is using. And I think I'd prefer to use RH rpm to
      > install them, as
      > > again, that is what my ISP did. (Want my dev box
      > to match the
      > > outside box as much as possible). This newsgroup
      > keeps mentioning
      > > "build from sources," will I be going astray
      > trying the rpm route?
      >
      > I hate RPMs. For Apache2/modperl2 you would be
      > better off going to
      > the CVS sources unless you can get hold of a very
      > recent RPM, things
      > are changing really fast in the mod_perl version 2
      > codebase. True, it
      > could be important for your dev box to match your
      > prod box, but when
      > you figure out what's going on it will probably
      > matter less - until
      > you start doing really fancy stuff, when it will
      > start to matter again.
      >
      >
      > > mysteries to a newcomer.
      >
      > FWIW you sound like you're picking it up quickly.
      >
      > 73,
      > Ged.
      >


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    • Perrin Harkins
      ... No, you should be fine. However, I have also simply installed a new perl on top of the one shipped by RH with no problems. (I did this because I wanted
      Message 2 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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        On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:24, Tofu Optimist wrote:
        > Am I going to have problems following the MP 2.0
        > install instructions
        >
        > http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/install/install.html
        >
        > if I don't nuke the current perl first?

        No, you should be fine. However, I have also simply installed a new
        perl on top of the one shipped by RH with no problems. (I did this
        because I wanted to use 5.6.1 rather than 5.8.0.) You will be blowing
        the RPM system by doing that, so it's not an advisable way to handle a
        large cluster of machines, but it works fine if you just need to get a
        quick dev environment bootstrapped.

        - Perrin
      • Tofu Optimist
        Ack!! My perl build failed. Here s what I did.... .... nuke the RPMS [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_ssl [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_python [root@SAM root]# rpm
        Message 3 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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          Ack!! My perl build failed.

          Here's what I did....

          .... nuke the RPMS
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_ssl
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_python
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e pho
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php-ldap
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php-imap
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e redhat-config-httpd
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e webalizer
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e httpd
          [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_perl

          ....download perl, apache, mod_perl

          ls
          -rw-rw-r-- 1 aprk aprk 6260081 Jul 7
          11:09 httpd-2.0.47.tar.gz
          -rw-rw-r-- 1 aprk aprk 918029 Apr 27
          22:53 mod_perl-2.0-current.tar.gz
          -rw------- 1 aprk aprk 4145152 Aug 1
          16:48 perl-5.8.0.tar.gz

          ....unzip and untar them, then

          cd perl-5.8.0
          ./Configure -des
          make && make test

          Here's the failure

          Failed Test Stat Wstat Total
          Fail Failed List of Failed
          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/all.t 20
          2 10.00% 9-10
          ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/languages.t 59
          1 1.69% 22
          42 tests and 406 subtests skipped.
          Failed 2/712 test scripts, 99.72% okay. 3/68552
          subtests failed, 100.00% okay.


          Oh helpful gurus, any advice?

          With gratitude --

          A

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        • Perrin Harkins
          ... [...] ... You didn t follow my earlier advice about changing the locale, did you? I wasn t kidding about that. You can t build perl 5.8.0 successfully on
          Message 4 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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            On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 17:46, Tofu Optimist wrote:
            > Ack!! My perl build failed.
            [...]
            > Failed Test Stat Wstat Total
            > Fail Failed List of Failed
            > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            > ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/all.t 20
            > 2 10.00% 9-10
            > ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/languages.t 59
            > 1 1.69% 22
            > 42 tests and 406 subtests skipped.
            > Failed 2/712 test scripts, 99.72% okay. 3/68552
            > subtests failed, 100.00% okay.

            You didn't follow my earlier advice about changing the locale, did you?
            I wasn't kidding about that. You can't build perl 5.8.0 successfully on
            a RH 9 system unless you change the locale.

            Note that 5.8.1 does not have this problem and is about to be released.

            - Perrin
          • Tofu Optimist
            I m not TRYING to be difficult; I am clueless. ... Exactly HOW do I change the locale? And after I do that, I do my make && make install again, yes? Many
            Message 5 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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              I'm not TRYING to be difficult; I am clueless.
              :)

              Exactly HOW do I change the locale?

              And after I do that, I do my

              make && make install

              again, yes?

              Many thanks!
              :)

              A


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            • Tofu Optimist
              I am still here, trying to build mod_perl 2. Many thanks to everyone who offered help. To recap: I freshly installed RedHat 9 on a box, then used RPM to remove
              Message 6 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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                I am still here, trying to build mod_perl 2.
                Many thanks to everyone who offered help.

                To recap: I freshly installed RedHat 9 on a box,
                then used RPM to remove modules involving httpd.
                (See notes below). Then I built perl 5.8.0 from
                source, first doing a "export LANG=C" to address
                the UTF bug. The perl build worked. I did everything
                as non-root until the make install, which I did as
                root.

                I then built Apache 2.0.47 from source.
                Seemed to go OK (there was no make test step...)
                I did everything as non-root until the make install,
                which I did as root.

                Then as root I used CPAN to install
                Bundle::WWW, LWP, and HTML::Parser.
                Had some troubles, used the force option, and plowed
                ahead. (Maybe I should have stopped here at the first

                sign of trouble....)

                As non-root, did
                cd mod_perl-1.99_09/
                perl Makefile.PL MP_AP_PREFIX=$HOME/httpd/prefork
                MP_INST_APACHE2=1
                make

                which went fine.

                make tests did not work -- below is the bottom of the
                output.

                Argh!

                Suggestions?

                - A

                PS Below the make test output below, I included a
                note file where I've been pasting commands I've run...
                in some places, it contains notes, rather than exact
                linux commands.

                ==================================
                = BOTTOM OF FAILED make test
                ==================================

                <snip>
                /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch/Apache2 -Iblib/lib/Apache2 \
                t/TEST -clean
                *** setting ulimit to allow core files
                ulimit -c unlimited; t/TEST -clean
                APACHE_USER= APACHE_GROUP= APACHE_PORT= APACHE= APXS=
                \
                /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch/Apache2 -Iblib/lib/Apache2 \
                t/TEST -verbose=0
                *** setting ulimit to allow core files
                ulimit -c unlimited; t/TEST -verbose=0
                /home/aprk/httpd/prefork/bin/httpd -d
                /home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/t -f
                /home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/t/conf/httpd.conf
                -DAPACHE2
                using Apache/2.0.47 (prefork MPM)

                waiting for server to start: ..[Fri Aug 01 22:34:36
                2003] [info] 19 Apache:: modules loaded
                [Fri Aug 01 22:34:36 2003] [info] 3 APR:: modules
                loaded
                [Fri Aug 01 22:34:36 2003] [info] base server + 8
                vhosts ready to run tests
                ..
                waiting for server to start: ok (waited 2 secs)
                server SAM:8529 started
                server SAM:8530 listening (TestProtocol::echo_filter)
                server SAM:8531 listening (TestProtocol::echo)
                server SAM:8532 listening (TestPreConnection::note)
                server SAM:8533 listening (TestFilter::in_str_msg)
                server SAM:8534 listening
                (TestFilter__both_str_con_add)
                server SAM:8535 listening (TestFilter::in_bbs_msg)
                server SAM:8536 listening (TestDirective::perlmodule)
                server SAM:8537 listening (TestDirective::perlrequire)
                server SAM:8538 listening
                (TestDirective::perlloadmodule4)
                server SAM:8539 listening
                (TestDirective::perlloadmodule5)
                server SAM:8540 listening
                (TestDirective::perlloadmodule3)
                server SAM:8541 listening
                (TestDirective::perlloadmodule6)
                apache/add_config..............ok
                apache/cgihandler..............ok
                apache/conftree................ok
                apache/constants...............ok
                apache/post....................ok
                apache/read....................ok
                apache/scanhdrs................ok
                apache/scanhdrs2...............ok
                apache/send_cgi_header.........ok
                apache/subprocess..............ok
                apache/write...................ok
                api/access.....................ok
                api/aplog......................ok
                api/conn_rec...................ok
                api/lookup_uri.................ok
                api/lookup_uri2................ok
                api/module.....................ok
                api/r_subclass.................ok
                api/request_rec................ok
                api/response...................ok
                api/rutil......................ok
                api/sendfile...................ok
                api/server_rec.................ok
                api/server_util................ok
                api/uri........................ok
                apr/base64.....................ok
                apr/constants..................ok
                apr/date.......................ok
                apr/netlib.....................ok
                apr/os.........................ok
                apr/pool.......................ok
                apr/socket.....................ok
                apr/string.....................ok
                apr/table......................ok
                apr/threadmutex................skipped
                all skipped: Perl was not built with
                'ithreads' enabled
                apr/util.......................ok
                apr/uuid.......................ok
                compat/apache..................ok
                compat/apache_file.............ok
                compat/apache_table............ok
                compat/apache_uri..............ok
                compat/apache_util.............ok
                compat/conn_authen.............ok
                compat/request.................ok
                compat/request_body............ok
                compat/send_fd.................ok
                directive/env..................ok
                directive/perl.................ok
                directive/perldo...............ok
                directive/perlloadmodule.......ok
                directive/perlloadmodule2......ok
                directive/perlloadmodule3......ok
                directive/perlloadmodule4......ok
                directive/perlloadmodule5......ok
                directive/perlloadmodule6......ok
                directive/perlmodule...........ok
                directive/perlrequire..........ok
                directive/pod..................ok
                directive/setupenv.............ok
                error/api......................ok
                error/runtime..................ok
                error/syntax...................ok
                filter/both_str_con_add........ok
                filter/both_str_req_add........ok
                filter/in_bbs_body.............ok
                filter/in_bbs_msg..............ok
                filter/in_init_basic...........ok
                filter/in_str_consume..........ok
                filter/in_str_declined.........ok
                filter/in_str_lc...............ok
                filter/in_str_msg..............ok
                filter/in_str_sandwich.........ok
                filter/out_bbs_basic...........ok
                filter/out_bbs_ctx.............ok
                filter/out_init_basic..........ok
                filter/out_str_api.............ok
                filter/out_str_ctx.............ok
                filter/out_str_declined........ok
                filter/out_str_lc..............ok
                filter/out_str_remove..........ok
                filter/out_str_req_eos.........ok
                filter/out_str_reverse.........ok
                hooks/access...................ok
                hooks/authen...................ok
                hooks/authz....................ok
                hooks/cleanup..................ok
                hooks/fixup....................ok
                hooks/headerparser.............ok
                hooks/init.....................ok
                hooks/push_handlers............ok
                hooks/stacked_handlers.........ok
                hooks/trans....................ok
                modperl/current_callback.......ok
                modperl/dir_config.............ok
                modperl/endav..................ok
                modperl/env....................ok
                modperl/exit...................ok
                modperl/getc...................ok
                modperl/method.................ok
                modperl/methodname.............ok
                modperl/methodobj..............ok
                modperl/perl...................ok
                modperl/pnotes.................ok
                modperl/print..................ok
                modperl/printf.................ok
                modperl/readline...............ok
                modperl/request_rec_tie_api....ok
                modperl/sameinterp.............ok
                modperl/setauth................ok
                modperl/subenv.................ok
                modperl/taint..................ok
                modules/cgi....................ok
                modules/cgiupload..............ok
                modules/include................ok
                modules/include2...............ok
                preconnection/note.............ok
                protocol/echo..................ok
                protocol/echo_filter...........ok
                All tests successful, 1 test skipped.
                Files=118, Tests=621, 134 wallclock secs (117.14 cusr
                + 10.72 csys = 127.86 CPU)
                *** server SAM:8529 shutdown
                cd ModPerl-Registry && make test
                make[1]: Entering directory
                `/home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/ModPerl-Registry'
                /usr/bin/perl -I../blib/arch/Apache2
                -I../blib/lib/Apache2 \
                t/TEST -clean
                *** setting ulimit to allow core files
                ulimit -c unlimited; t/TEST -clean
                APACHE_USER= APACHE_GROUP= APACHE_PORT= APACHE= APXS=
                \
                /usr/bin/perl -I../blib/arch/Apache2
                -I../blib/lib/Apache2 \
                t/TEST -verbose=0
                *** setting ulimit to allow core files
                ulimit -c unlimited; t/TEST -verbose=0
                /home/aprk/httpd/prefork/bin/httpd -d
                /home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/ModPerl-Registry/t -f
                /home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/ModPerl-Registry/t/conf/httpd.conf
                -DAPACHE2
                using Apache/2.0.47 (prefork MPM)

                waiting for server to start: ....
                waiting for server to start: ok (waited 3 secs)
                server SAM:8529 started
                206................ok
                404................ok
                500................ok
                bad_scripts........ok
                basic..............ok
                cgi................NOK 2# Failed test 2 in cgi.t at
                line 19
                cgi................FAILED test 2
                Failed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay
                closure............ok
                perlrun_require....ok
                redirect...........ok
                special_blocks.....ok
                Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of
                Failed
                -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                cgi.t 2 1 50.00% 2
                *** server SAM:8529 shutdown
                !!! error running tests (please examine
                t/logs/error_log)
                make[1]: *** [run_tests] Error 1
                make[1]: Leaving directory
                `/home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/ModPerl-Registry'
                make: *** [run_tests] Error 2
                aprk@SAM:~/src/mod_perl-1.99_09>
                aprk@SAM:~/src/mod_perl-1.99_09>
                aprk@SAM:~/src/mod_perl-1.99_09>


                ==================================
                = MISC NOTES FROM INSTALL
                ==================================

                Note file where I've been pasting commands I've run...
                in some places, it contains notes, rather than exact
                linux commands, in other places, exact commands, or
                copypaste from the terminal...




                su
                updatedb
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_ssl
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_python
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e pho
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php-ldap
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php-imap
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e php
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e redhat-config-httpd
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e webalizer
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e httpd
                [root@SAM root]# rpm -e mod_perl
                .....download perl, apache, mod_perl
                -rw-rw-r-- 1 aprk aprk 6260081 Jul 7
                11:09 httpd-2.0.47.tar.gz
                -rw-rw-r-- 1 aprk aprk 918029 Apr 27
                22:53 mod_perl-2.0-current.tar.gz
                -rw------- 1 aprk aprk 4145152 Aug 1
                16:48 perl-5.8.0.tar.gz
                ........unzip and untar them
                cd perl-5.8.0
                ./Configure -des
                .......fix the UTF bug
                export LANG=C (from
                http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87682)
                make && make test
                su
                cd ....perl-5.8.0
                make install
                exit
                cd .......httpd
                ./configure --prefix=$HOME/httpd/prefork
                --with-mpm=prefork
                make
                su
                make install
                exit
                cd mod_perl-1.99_09/
                perl Makefile.PL MP_AP_PREFIX=$HOME/httpd/prefork
                MP_INST_APACHE2=1
                make
                su
                perl -MCPAN -eshell
                force install HTML::Parser
                force install LWP
                force install WWW::Bundle (?not sure?)
                exit
                make test



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              • Ged Haywood
                Hi there, ... http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/UsingPerl58OnRedHat8 about half a dozen messages down. See also
                Message 7 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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                  Hi there,

                  On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote:

                  > Exactly HOW do I change the locale?

                  http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/UsingPerl58OnRedHat8

                  about half a dozen messages down. See also

                  http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87682

                  > make && make install
                  >
                  > again, yes?

                  Better start with

                  % cd /home/directory/src

                  (or whatever your home directory is) and then

                  % rm -rf apache_1.3.28
                  % rm -rf mod_perl-1.28
                  % tar xzvf apache_1.3.28.tgz
                  % tar xzvf mod_perl-1.28
                  % perl Makefile.PL ....

                  and I would suggest that in future instead of

                  % make && make install

                  that you do these steps as separate commands

                  % make
                  % make test
                  % su
                  Password:
                  # make install
                  # exit
                  %

                  which will give you the opportunity to abandon ship at any point
                  before the install. Finally if you do

                  % script

                  before you start the 'perl Makefile.PL' step then everything you see
                  on the screen will be logged to a file so you can peruse it later if
                  you feel the need. It will help you to become familiar with build the
                  process. It looks a lot more complicated than it is. Really.

                  % man script

                  for more details. I'd use 'less -S' to look at the scriptfile.
                  In fact I always alias 'less -S' to 'li' in my login scripts... :)

                  73,
                  Ged.
                • Ged Haywood
                  Hello again, ... why not LANG=en_US ? ... Oooohhh. Don t do that... We re getting out of my area of experience here, I don t use mod_perl2, but I hear there
                  Message 8 of 18 , Aug 1, 2003
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                    Hello again,

                    On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote:

                    > To recap: I freshly installed RedHat 9 on a box,
                    > then used RPM to remove modules involving httpd.
                    > (See notes below). Then I built perl 5.8.0 from
                    > source, first doing a "export LANG=C"

                    why not

                    LANG=en_US

                    ?

                    > Then as root I used CPAN to install
                    > Bundle::WWW, LWP, and HTML::Parser.
                    > Had some troubles, used the force option,

                    Oooohhh. Don't do that...

                    We're getting out of my area of experience here, I don't use mod_perl2,
                    but I hear there are recent changes to CGI.pm. Did you install the
                    latest CGI.pm? You should.

                    73,
                    Ged.
                  • Tofu Optimist
                    Hi folks. It is Saturday evening, 2 Aug 03, 9pm local time, and I just got my modperl 2 and apache 2 running on my dev box, built from source, and just ran my
                    Message 9 of 18 , Aug 2, 2003
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                      Hi folks. It is Saturday evening, 2 Aug 03, 9pm local
                      time, and I just got my modperl 2 and apache 2 running
                      on my dev box, built from source, and just ran my
                      first handler successfully. Hurrah!!

                      I started on this wild adventure last Wednesday
                      evening, so it took me around 3.5 days, working on and
                      off. Thanks to the good folks on this list for
                      helping me out, especially ged & perrin for their
                      patience and insightful posts.

                      I wanted to summarize what I learned, in case it
                      helps someone else trying to do the same thing.

                      CAUTION: I am a linux and apache and mod-perl NEWBIE;
                      please don�t take the following as gospel, I could be
                      (and likely am) wrong. But hopefully my points below
                      will at least raise helpful issues. At times I had
                      trouble as my knowledge was so rudimentary I couldn't
                      read between the lines in the docs and in the posts.
                      (For example, why do the docs casually say "make &&
                      make test && make install", when in fact you have to
                      su over to root before the install step? <g>)

                      So here are my notes on this process:

                      * START CLEAN. Before starting, get rid of any and
                      all old perls and apaches on the system. I had
                      several instances of both due my installation
                      fumblings -- I opted to reinstall Red Hat 9 to start
                      fresh. If you do this, make sure you ask RH to
                      install all the programming tools � on my first
                      reinstall, I opted for the �server� configuration,
                      which didn�t give me all the compiling tools needed,
                      and so had to reinstall it again. Useful tools are
                      updatedb and locate, and rpm �e. Took me a while to
                      realize I could use wget to pull down .tar.gz sources
                      via http; not knowing about wget, I was trying to get
                      everything through ftp and that was a drag.

                      * SEARCH IS YOUR FRIEND. I really liked the interface
                      and search function at
                      http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/mod_perl_C1/.
                      Amazing resource. And searching for key terms or
                      error messages on Google (main) and Google groups
                      gives a good a sense of what might be going on.

                      * MOD_PERL 2 IS STILL YOUNG. I didn�t realize going
                      into this that at this point (2 Aug 03) Mod Perl 2 is
                      still pre-release. Ack! My ISP runs Apache 2 so
                      decided to install mod-perl 2, so I wanted AP2 and MP2
                      on my dev machine to match my ISP setup. (Funny � he
                      got MP2 running in a few hours, vs. my 3.5 days � but
                      then again, this was also my introduction to linux,
                      apache, etc.)

                      * DON�T DO EVERYTHING AS ROOT. Build and test all
                      packages as non-root, then su to root to make install.
                      Don�t make and make test as root. I did and ran into
                      troubles and had to start again.

                      * IF PERL DOESN�T PASS 100% OF ITS TESTS, STOP. Build
                      perl 5.8.x first, and make sure it passes every test.
                      Do not continue, do not pass go, do not collect $200
                      until all the tests run. I had to use EXPORT
                      LANG=en_us to get around the UTF bug in Perl 5.8.0.

                      * CPAN IS YOUR FRIEND. After building a successful
                      perl 5.8.0, I used CPAN to install (in this order)
                      CGI, LWP, Bundle::LWP, HTML::Parser. Now, I didn�t
                      get 100% clean installs on the last two, and (in
                      violation of the previous rule above) continued on
                      with my fingers crossed.

                      * DON�T MIX APACHE 1 AND APACHE 2 DOCS. Without
                      realizing it, I was bouncing between the docs at the
                      mod_perl site for 1.0 and 2.0. I didn�t realize how
                      different the two packages are. Stay in one world or
                      the other. The apache install went easily, following
                      the instructions online and in Stas� excellent book,
                      practical mod_perl.

                      * ONE ERROR. The mod_perl install went smoothly too,
                      following the instructions online. I did get one
                      error i: �filter/in_bbs_msg..............server side
                      has failed (response code: 404),see t/logs/error_log
                      for more details� but again I foolishly forged on
                      ignoring it. Will this come back to haunt me? I hope
                      not. Anyone want to tell me what this means?

                      * DON�T MIX MODPERL1 AND MODPERL2 DOCS. I read Stas�
                      book, Practical mod_perl, and really found it useful
                      and well-written. But I thought the whole book was
                      about �mod-perl� � technically it isn�t. Most of the
                      book is about MP1, and Chaps 24 and 25 are about MP2.
                      My handlers were wrong, my httpd.conf was wrong � I
                      was trying to run MP1 stuff on MP2. I made the same
                      mistake reading ModPerl Developer�s Cookbook. The
                      fault was mine � MP 1 and MP 2 are quite different. I
                      just didn�t know this going into this process.

                      * READ PRACTICAL MODPERL CHAP 23 �GETTING HELP AND
                      ONLINE RESOURCES� FIRST. I noticed this chapter late
                      in the game. Read it first.

                      Those are my tidbits of advice. Good luck to you if
                      you are a newcomer, and thanks to the veterans for
                      providing all this great information, advice, and
                      encouragement --

                      A




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                    • Ron Savage
                      ... mod_perl2, ... For the record, the last CGI.pm which I could get to work under Win2K/IE 6 is 2.97. V 2.99 corrupts the string returned by $q - url() by
                      Message 10 of 18 , Aug 3, 2003
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                        >We're getting out of my area of experience here, I don't use
                        mod_perl2,
                        >but I hear there are recent changes to CGI.pm. Did you install the
                        >latest CGI.pm? You should.
                        >
                        >73,
                        >Ged.

                        For the record, the last CGI.pm which I could get to work under
                        Win2K/IE 6 is 2.97.

                        V 2.99 corrupts the string returned by $q -> url() by %-etc encoding
                        /-etc characters.
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                      • Perrin Harkins
                        ... FYI, this was probably also because of the locale issue. Best to make it a global change so you won t have to set it every time you want to run (or
                        Message 11 of 18 , Aug 4, 2003
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                          On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 22:53, Tofu Optimist wrote:
                          > Then as root I used CPAN to install
                          > Bundle::WWW, LWP, and HTML::Parser.
                          > Had some troubles, used the force option, and plowed
                          > ahead. (Maybe I should have stopped here at the first

                          FYI, this was probably also because of the locale issue. Best to make
                          it a global change so you won't have to set it every time you want to
                          run (or install) perl stuff.

                          - Perrin
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