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  • Connie Hooker
    Anyone who isn t totally physically disabled, should NEVER go hungry in America! Besides all of the govt. give aways, faith based soup kitchens & food banks,
    Message 1 of 39 , Dec 1, 2003
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      Anyone who isn't totally physically disabled, should NEVER go hungry in
      Besides all of the govt. give aways, faith based soup kitchens & food banks,
      there are fish for the catching, wild plant foods for the picking, & game
      for the taking EVERY WHERE from coast to coast!

      Enemies may come into our country and times will have changed, but then the
      boys will come down from the old high hills and belt on their guns again.
      Louis L'Amour

      >From: raysosc@...
      >Reply-To: misc_survivalism_moderated@yahoogroups.com
      >To: misc_survivalism_discussion@yahoogroups.com,
      >Subject: [MSM] A New Kind Of Poverty
      >Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:43:43 EST
      > A New Kind Of Poverty
      > Anna Quindlend
      > Newsweek
      > Monday 01 December 2003
      >America is a country that now sits atop the precarious latticework of myth.
      >It is the myth that working people can support their families
      > Winter flits in and out of New York City in the late fall, hitching a
      >ride on the wind that whips the Hudson River. One cold morning not long
      >just as day was breaking, six men began to shift beneath their blankets
      >under a
      >stone arch up a rise from the water. In the shadow of the newest
      >castle-in-the-air skyscraper midwifed by the Baron Trump, they gathered
      >their possessions.
      >An hour later they had vanished, an urban mirage.
      > There���s a new kind of homelessness in the city, and a new kind of
      >hunger, and a new kind of need and humiliation, but it has managed to stay
      >invisible as those sleepers were by sunup. ���What we���re seeing are many
      >more working
      >families on the brink of eviction,��� says Mary Brosnahan, who runs the
      >Coalition for the Homeless. ���They fall behind on the rent, and that���s
      >it, they���re on
      >the street.��� Adds Julia Erickson, the executive director of City Harvest,
      >which distributes food to soup kitchens and food pantries, ���Look at the
      >Mission on Lafayette Street. They used to feed single men, often substance
      >abusers, homeless. Now you go in and there are bike messengers, clerks,
      >workers, dishwashers, people who work on cleaning crews. Soup kitchens have
      >buying booster seats and highchairs. You never used to see young kids at
      > America is a country that now sits atop the precarious latticework of
      >myth. It is the myth that work provides rewards, that working people can
      >their families. It���s a myth that has become so divorced from reality that
      >might as well begin with the words ���Once upon a time.��� According to the
      >Department of Agriculture, 1.6 million New Yorkers, or the equivalent of
      >population of Philadelphia, suffer from ���food insecurity,��� which is a
      >way of saying they don���t have enough to eat. Some are the people who come
      >in at
      >night and clean those skyscrapers that glitter along the river. Some pour
      >coffee and take care of the aged parents of the people who live in those
      >buildings. The American Dream for the well-to-do grows from the bowed backs
      >of the
      >working poor, who too often have to choose between groceries and rent.
      > Even if you���ve never been to the Rescue Mission, all the evidence
      >this is in a damning new book called ���The Betrayal of Work��� by Beth
      >Shulman, a
      >book that should be required reading for every presidential candidate and
      >member of Congress. According to Shulman, even in the go-go ���90s one out
      >of every
      >four American workers made less than $8.70 an hour, an income equal to the
      >government���s poverty level for a family of four. Many, if not most, of
      >workers have no health care, sick pay or retirement provisions.
      > We salve our consciences, Shulman writes, by describing these people
      >as ���
      >low skilled,��� as though they���re not important or intelligent enough to
      >deserve more. But low-skilled workers today are better educated than ever
      >and they constitute the linchpin of American industry. When politicians
      >that happy days are here again because jobs are on the rise, it���s these
      >jobs they
      >���re really talking about. Five of the 10 occupations expected to grow big
      >the next decade are in the lowest-paying job groups. And before we sit back
      >and decide that that���s just the way it is, it���s instructive to consider
      >rest of the world. While the bottom 10 percent of American workers earn
      >just 37
      >percent of our median wage, according to Shulman, their counterparts in
      >industrialized countries earn upwards of 60 percent. And those are
      >that provide health care and child care, which cuts the economic pinch
      > In America we console ourselves with the bootstrap myth, that anyone
      >rise, even those who work two jobs and still have to visit food pantries to
      >feed their families. It is a beloved myth now more than ever, because the
      >working poor have become ever more unsympathetic. Almost 40 years ago, when
      >Johnson declared war on poverty, a family with a car and a Dutch Colonial
      >the suburbs felt prosperous and, in the face of the president���s call to
      >magnanimous. Poverty seemed far away, in the shanties of the South or the
      >worst pockets of urban blight. Today that same family may well feel
      >overwhelmed by credit-card debt, a second mortgage and the cost of the
      >that has become the backbone of American life. When the middle class feels
      >poor, the poor have little chance for change, or even recognition. Does
      >think twice about the woman who turns down the spread on the hotel bed?
      > A living wage, affordable health care and housing, the bedrock
      >understanding that it���s morally wrong to prosper through the casual
      >exploitation of
      >those who make your prosperity possible. It���s a tall order, I suppose.
      >The lucky
      >thing for many Americans is that they don���t even have to see or think
      >it. The office hallways get mopped somehow, the shelves get stocked at the
      >stores. And on Thanksgiving Day, children will be pushed up to the table
      >for a free
      >meal in a church basement or a soup kitchen, with the understanding that
      >is the point of the holiday���a day of plenty in a life of want.
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    • raysosc@aol.com
      In a message dated 12/8/2003 3:05:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, tigerlily@imt.net writes: I did a search too and came up empty handed. Basically the same thing.
      Message 39 of 39 , Dec 8, 2003
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        In a message dated 12/8/2003 3:05:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
        tigerlily@... writes:
        I did a search too and came up empty handed.
        Basically the same thing.
        I've tried different search engines and still nothing.

        I just looked for them too.
        I did not find UFB, but under search farm brokers I did find about 50%
        farm and ranch type listings out of the first 200. These are not as big as
        UFB, but seem to have listings for 1 or more ajoining states.
        The first one I checked prices on had farms in California in the
        350-400K range. about 20% less than the track home i'm in.

        p.s. as someone said earlier, its not the cost of the land that kills,
        the taxes are murder. Taxes on this house would run 1.5% of the
        purchase price per year or about $6000 divided by 12 months
        equals $500 on top of the mortgage of $1400. Add on insurance
        of $120 per month and that $2020 per month. Utilities run about
        another $200 summer and $400 winter.


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