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  • jdkmlw
    Vern I just seen the three pics you put up, can you explain the lathe bed & stand one a little? Looks very interest and I m curious about it Thanks John
    Message 1 of 4 , Sep 29, 2013

      Vern I just seen the three pics you put up, can you explain the "lathe bed & stand" one a little?

      Looks very interest and I'm curious about it

      Thanks John

    • Vern VanZ
      Hi John, Thanks for asking!  The lathe bed and stand shown in the photo, is my attempt at a larger version of a lathe built by G.B. Round:  
      Message 2 of 4 , Sep 29, 2013
        Hi John,

        Thanks for asking!  The lathe bed and stand shown in the photo, is my attempt at a larger version of a lathe built by G.B. Round:  

        http://www.vintageprojects.com/machine-shop/HobbyLathe.pdf

        The link above points to a copy of the original 1959 Model Engineer magazine article (in .pdf format).  The author indicated that he built his lathe using bits of scrap steel, etc..  If it was built as published, it appears to have been a very robust little machine, and was later fitted with quite a few accessories.

        G.B. Round also states that, his desire was to build a lathe based on "Maudslay's triangular bar bed". But since he didn't have access to, or couldn't easily fabricate any triangular bar; he improvised using angle steel instead (thinking 'outside the box' isn't really a new idea, is it...).  

        Read through the article, and study the drawings; I think you will find that it is more informative, than I will be... ;)  I had difficulty enough just getting the idea across to the local machinist, when I took the 1.5" x 3" CR bar to him, for what I hope will become part of the saddle.  

        In a nutshell, if you take Maudslay's triangle bars, and place them back to back, you have a lathe bed built using a single square bar, which has been rotated 45 degrees.  G.B. Round simply built a square tube from angle steel instead...

        Unlike Mr. Round, I'll be using a headstock and other parts cast from aluminum, and am in the process of making the patterns for them now.  As a side note, I ended up with my mill-drill sort of 'by accident' while looking for someone to do machine work for the lathe.  It's been quite an educational adventure to say the least...  At the moment, I have a temporary headstock built from bits of angle steel, flat bar, pillow block bearings, etc., that are either welded or bolted together.

        You can email me directly ( n7gtb at yahoo dot com)  if you have any other questions...

        Regards,
        -Vern


        From: "Coils69@..." <Coils69@...>
        To: mill_drill@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:06 PM
        Subject: [mill_drill] Vern's Stuff Pics?



        Vern I just seen the three pics you put up, can you explain the "lathe bed & stand" one a little?
        Looks very interest and I'm curious about it
        Thanks John




      • jdkmlw
        Thanks a lot for the link, looks very interesting. And I glanced over that PDF real quick (will read it more later), that could also be the base for a low end
        Message 3 of 4 , Sep 29, 2013

          Thanks a lot for the link, looks very interesting.

          And I glanced over that PDF real quick (will read it more later), that could also be the base for a low end CNC lathe too, wouldn't need all the belts & gearing.

          Hmm maybe I just found a use for a huge piece of angle iron I have  : )



          ---In mill_drill@yahoogroups.com, <mill_drill@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

          Hi John,

          Thanks for asking!  The lathe bed and stand shown in the photo, is my attempt at a larger version of a lathe built by G.B. Round:  

          http://www.vintageprojects.com/machine-shop/HobbyLathe.pdf

          The link above points to a copy of the original 1959 Model Engineer magazine article (in .pdf format).  The author indicated that he built his lathe using bits of scrap steel, etc..  If it was built as published, it appears to have been a very robust little machine, and was later fitted with quite a few accessories.

          G.B. Round also states that, his desire was to build a lathe based on "Maudslay's triangular bar bed". But since he didn't have access to, or couldn't easily fabricate any triangular bar; he improvised using angle steel instead (thinking 'outside the box' isn't really a new idea, is it...).  

          Read through the article, and study the drawings; I think you will find that it is more informative, than I will be... ;)  I had difficulty enough just getting the idea across to the local machinist, when I took the 1.5" x 3" CR bar to him, for what I hope will become part of the saddle.  

          In a nutshell, if you take Maudslay's triangle bars, and place them back to back, you have a lathe bed built using a single square bar, which has been rotated 45 degrees.  G.B. Round simply built a square tube from angle steel instead...

          Unlike Mr. Round, I'll be using a headstock and other parts cast from aluminum, and am in the process of making the patterns for them now.  As a side note, I ended up with my mill-drill sort of 'by accident' while looking for someone to do machine work for the lathe.  It's been quite an educational adventure to say the least...  At the moment, I have a temporary headstock built from bits of angle steel, flat bar, pillow block bearings, etc., that are either welded or bolted together.

          You can email me directly ( n7gtb at yahoo dot com)  if you have any other questions...

          Regards,
          -Vern

          From: "Coils69@..." <Coils69@...>
          To: mill_drill@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:06 PM
          Subject: [mill_drill] Vern's Stuff Pics?



          Vern I just seen the three pics you put up, can you explain the "lathe bed & stand" one a little?
          Looks very interest and I'm curious about it
          Thanks John




        • Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
          I based my lathe vertical slide on his design, so I have posted a picture in my album. See:
          Message 4 of 4 , Sep 29, 2013
            I based my lathe vertical slide on his design, so I have posted a picture in my album.
            See:
            <http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mill_drill/photos/albums/1770829555>

            Malcolm

            I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
            Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin
            The writing is on the wall.
            Ha-ktovet al ha-kir

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            On Sun, 9/29/13, Vern VanZ <n7gtb@...> wrote:

            Subject: Re: [mill_drill] Vern's Stuff Pics?
            To: "mill_drill@yahoogroups.com" <mill_drill@yahoogroups.com>
            Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 9:21 PM
















             









            Hi
            John,
            Thanks for asking!  The lathe
            bed and stand shown in the photo, is my attempt at a
            larger version of a lathe built by G.B. Round:
             
            http://www.vintageprojects.com/machine-shop/HobbyLathe.pdf
            The
            link above points to a copy of the original 1959 Model
            Engineer magazine article (in .pdf format).  The author
            indicated that he built his lathe using bits of scrap steel,
            etc..  If it was built as published, it appears to have
            been a very robust little machine, and was later fitted with
            quite a few accessories.
            G.B.
            Round also states that, his desire was to build a lathe
            based on "Maudslay's triangular bar bed". But
            since he didn't have access to, or couldn't easily
            fabricate any triangular bar; he improvised using angle
            steel instead (thinking 'outside the box' isn't
            really a new idea, is it...).  
            Read
            through the article, and study the drawings; I think you
            will find that it is more informative, than I will be... ;)
             I had difficulty enough just getting the idea across
            to the local machinist, when I took the 1.5" x 3"
            CR bar to him, for what I hope will become part of the
            saddle.
             
            In
            a nutshell, if you take Maudslay's triangle bars, and
            place them back to back, you have a lathe bed built using a
            single square bar, which has been rotated 45 degrees.
             G.B. Round simply built a square tube from angle steel
            instead...
            Unlike
            Mr. Round, I'll be using a headstock and other parts
            cast from aluminum, and am in the process of
            making the patterns for them now.  As a side note, I
            ended up with my mill-drill sort of 'by accident'
            while looking for someone to do machine work for the lathe.
             It's been quite an educational adventure to say
            the least...  At the moment, I have a temporary
            headstock built from bits of angle steel, flat bar, pillow
            block bearings, etc., that are either welded or bolted
            together.
            You
            can email me directly ( n7gtb at yahoo dot com)  if you
            have any other questions...
            Regards,-Vern

            From:
            "Coils69@..." <Coils69@...>
            To:
            mill_drill@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Sunday,
            September 29, 2013 12:06 PM
            Subject:
            [mill_drill] Vern's Stuff Pics?


























            Vern I just seen the three pics you put up, can you
            explain the "lathe bed & stand" one a
            little?Looks very interest and I'm curious
            about itThanks
            John
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